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    #11
    Originally posted by chuckChuck View Post
    Sofa there are reliable and credible sources of information based on peer reviewed science. And then there is the link you posted which is based on astrology.

    If you and many others on Agriville don't know the difference, then we are have a serious problem.
    Not saying that I believe in most aspects of Astrology, especially not horrorscopes. But there is science behind what Theodore White claims. The gravitational pull of the large planets has an effect on our sun, and our sun does have an effect on our climate, even if the AGW crowd believes otherwise. Whether that can be quantified into accurate multi decade forecasts is yet to be proven, at least to me, but I am willing to entertain the notion.

    Living on the edge of productive farmland as I do, future climate information is vital to my future business decisions. It would be very comforting to believe the AGW forever hypothesis and plan accordingly, but the stakes are too high to not consider all possible outcomes and sources of information before making long term plans.

    As a believer in AGW, what steps have you taken to prepare for the inevitable multi degree warming? Is dryland cropping agriculture still viable in your area if temps raise by 2 degrees?

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      #12
      Simon Atkins with AFC weather is talking the exact same situation as Mr. White. In his last weekly update he shows how there's zero basis in NOAA's data for an El Nino. Rather a la Nina is present. They are cooking the data just like the whistle-blowers claim. Now the odd thing is if you tie Mr. Whites claims as well as AFC and Armstrong all together they show the exact same situation developing. Cooling this year with a turn in grain prices to higher levels.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Lex View Post
        There have always been fluctuations in the temperature of the earth. The ongoing debate is whether humans are causing the increase.

        My question is which are we more likely to survive. Warming or cooling. We are so focused on the discussion about whether or not we are causing global warming that we may be completely missing the more important discussion.

        I am quite certain than humans will survive a warming cycle. But the next ice age may be much more threatening.

        Based on historical cycles the next ice age seems inevitable.
        Absolutely correct, I have said it many times, COLD = death, WARM= more life! Let's change it faster, or prevent the coming COOLING!

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          #14
          And just what has anyone done lately about returning world human population to previous levels.

          That real problem (if CO2 "reducers"would take a minute to acknowledge) is where the long term equilibrium truly lies.

          The"well intentioned" idiots are in charge of the asylum. Look at all (or at least more) of the trends and you'll see where the changes might be placed.
          Last edited by oneoff; Mar 22, 2017, 06:33.

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            #15
            I just read an article that thinks that it is Canada's time to shine in climate research and technology because Trump has taken US out of it, can't win.

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              #16
              No first it was acid rain then global warming them climate change eyc etc etc good way for a bunch of shysters to make a lot of money like that prick with 4 homes

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                #17
                I wish we lived in a world were people who were not quite right wore signs.

                I read your rebuttal chuck Really here is your sign wear it proud.

                Yes the earth warms and cools and has wet years and dry years and some times we have no snow all winter and some times up to the roof tops. Its weather.

                But yes i feel sun activity is part of the cause for change.

                So chuck you can spout all you like a fortune teller is a astrologist.

                Really chucky your the typical liberal or NDP you could hit you with a shovel and you would still come up saying you were right even if the data was their to support that your totally full of shit.

                Have a great day. Wear it proud.

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                  #18
                  AF5, Warmer and drier wouldn't be good here. Colder and wetter may actually be a bit better. Warmer and wetter would likely spawn more crop disease and violent summer storms. But ultimately drier for us wouldn't be good. We really weren't high input continuous cropping during the dry Eighties but I'm sure more inputs wouldn't have meant as much as an inch of rain at the right time!

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by caseih View Post
                    No first it was acid rain then global warming them climate change eyc etc etc good way for a bunch of shysters to make a lot of money like that prick with 4 homes

                    There are a lot of shysters making a pile off climate change. If governments would turn off that tap, they wouldn't have a problem today with the budget. Millions of "scientists", carbon capture kings, government and crown corp departments, and it continues - but then what would the media print?

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                      Yup this needs fixing, and the only thing that will work is putting a tax on a trace element gas that is absolutely essential to life on earth.

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