California let's worry about every other thing except infrastructure!

[dmlfarmer]

Well, SK3 if it is so simple I challenge you to tell us exactly what you would cut. If it is so simple, give us a list of the "feel good projects" you feel should be defunded and how much each would save. Should not be to difficult if you go to the Public Accounts to find what is spent on each program.

And to make it even simpler, forget the US and just tell us what is to be defunded in Canada. Remember Canada looks to have a 30 billion dollar deficit this year so please, just find 30 billion in savings that the feds are now spending and lets put that 30 billion into our crumbling infrastructure. I am not even asking for a balanced budget.

If it is so simple, you should have no problem in finding just 30 billion in savings in federal government spending. Or are you simply all talk?

[chuckChuck]

Some of you should remember that in 2011 Rafferty was close to overflowing and possibly failing due to heavy rain in June after a wet spring. The flood gates were opened and a wall of water took out bridges, farms, towns, and 4500 buildings in Minot. Americans blamed Saskatchewan for the flood.

Obviously it was Brad Walls fault because he is a Conservative Premier. LOL

[chuckChuck]

SF3 I would start by cutting ag subsidies to large farms like yours because you don't need to be propped up by hard working canadian's taxes. You might have to take a few less vacations!

[SASKFARMER]

Ok it's real easy.

Money for gay rights parades etc. They are just like all the other people of Canada if they want a parade pay for it themselves. We're all Canadians doesn't matter what you are or believe that's your belief don't push on others.


Quit bringing in people from all over the world look after Canadians first.

Stop bailouts of bombardier

Quit traveling the world on tax payers dime.

Quit sending delegates to useless climate change meetings.

Cut out equalization and make provinces finance their own dream feel good programs.

Drop all subsidies to green energy if it's not worth it why subsidize.

Cut Pms wage and all politicians.


Cut retirement gold plated programs for all in Ottawa.

Cut all departments budgets. Don't make it the norm to use your entire budget so you get more next year.

Drop and have a hard look at Medicare.

Drop the CBC.

Welfare cut if flunk drug test, or if do flunk and don't take programs to help then loose benefits.

Look at civil servants lots of useless positions that are just paper shufflers.

Look at basis and let all other programs die.

Cold hard fact USA and now Canada should worry more about their country and their people first.

[SASKFARMER]

Chucks what subsidy do I get besides the only one that works Ag invest.

Money in account if I put it and it's matched.

Ah Ag stability doesn't do shit all.

Crop insurance was designed to make money for the gov.

So again chucks you non farmer explain.

[binthere]

first place to fix. c.r.a. estimated as much as or more than 50 billion in taxes not paid or pursued for. offshore tax havens, tax cheats etc. the biggest reason lack of funding to c.r.a. dept. or is it lack of will. probably the latter. recommended read the merger.

[chuckChuck]

Other than Supply Management Canadian ag does not get as many subsidies as some other countries.

But the subsidies that we get often go to large farms that don't need it. And if you are oppossed to excessive government spending should not subsidies to large farms that do not need it be on the list?

Ag Invest - matching deposit matching 1% of allowable net sales Max is $15000 per year.
Crop Insurance Premiums - 1/2 paid by farmers and other 1/2 by Federal and Prov. Government.
AgriStability - not likely to pay out much now, but did pay out well for some farms prior to the changes by Harper.

In Saskatchewan - .12 cents per litre tax off farm fuel,

Over the years - Western Grain Stabilization, , Numerous Ad Hoc emergency programs that paid out based on acreage, GRIP, Interest Free Loans from Grant Devine etc.

Agriculture is indeed subsidized for various reasons. Some of it is good policy some of it is for political reasons.

Lots of farmers farmed the programs to get more payouts.

[sumdumguy]

Some of you should remember that in 2011 Rafferty was close to overflowing and possibly failing due to heavy rain in June after a wet spring. The flood gates were opened and a wall of water took out bridges, farms, towns, and 4500 buildings in Minot. Americans blamed Saskatchewan for the flood.

Obviously it was Brad Walls fault because he is a Conservative Premier. LOL

There should have been action taken before the flooding in 2011. A good part of Roche Percee was destroyed, not to mention Minot. You gotta wonder who was in charge and why heads didn't roll. Those water levels should have been monitored months before and the Rafferty levels lowered. Similar situation this year. Lots of rain and snow out west of us, hope they are smarter. The province doesn't need another disaster like that. I don't Brad Wall moniters the water but Sask Water is supposed to, but then aren't they the brainiaks who allow communities to pump raw sewage into the creeks that feed Wascana?

[chuckChuck]

It was wet all spring right from the start and they held back releases from Rafferty and Alameda to prevent flooding earlier. Then 2-6 Inches of rain fell in the souris basin in June on already saturated soils and all hell broke loose. Had they dramatically dropped the reservoirs in the winter they might of had a chance. But that is hindsight.

BTW there is a US and Canadian board that oversees the management of the river and flows and they were involved in the decision process.

It was a 1 in 500 year flood event and when it is seriously wet dams can make the situation much worse.

For more backgroud read this:
http://www.gov.sk.ca/adx/aspx/adxGetMedia.aspx?mediaId=1506&PN=Shared

[tweety]

Well, SK3 if it is so simple I challenge you to tell us exactly what you would cut. If it is so simple, give us a list of the "feel good projects" you feel should be defunded and how much each would save. Should not be to difficult if you go to the Public Accounts to find what is spent on each program.

And to make it even simpler, forget the US and just tell us what is to be defunded in Canada. Remember Canada looks to have a 30 billion dollar deficit this year so please, just find 30 billion in savings that the feds are now spending and lets put that 30 billion into our crumbling infrastructure. I am not even asking for a balanced budget.

If it is so simple, you should have no problem in finding just 30 billion in savings in federal government spending. Or are you simply all talk?

1. Stop subsidizing the fossil fuel industry. Spend the EXTRA 4 billion on Renewable energy research, disregard all of SF3's cuts.

SF3, Do you realize most of your cuts that actually involve real money just transfer expenses from one area of government to another?

But i'm sure you'll just go off on a tangent and not actually read point#1.