Might be an interesting one to watch

[blackpowder]

Easy there Marshal. It revolutionized how we farm.
But...... the companies purchasing will soon differentiate. Customers always right.

[MBgrower]

X2 braveheart. Seems lots of farmers forget the grain they harvest becomes someones food.

[iceman]

I'm surprised pre-harvest isn't gone already. It is horribly abused by people applying too soon when there is still green in the crop. Every time I hear a farmer say the wheat is ready to desiccate I cringe. Glyphosate is NOT a desiccant. It's being used as such and will be eventually lost as a weed control method.

X2 Those lads got taught a good lesson this year on ordering a air strike to early on durum. Lots of 52lb bushel weight when the neighbors got 58lb by letting Mother Nature look after the desiccation.

Iceman out

[blackpowder]

Not sure what you mean by too green. Obviously weight loss is silly. (I'm a little color blind)
Here, if you want dry wheat to cut in first half Sept, your spraying a little ahead of 'recommendations'.
Bonus is quack gone and thistle pushed back.

[fjlip]

Not sure what you mean by too green. Obviously weight loss is silly. (I'm a little color blind)
Here, if you want dry wheat to cut in first half Sept, your spraying a little ahead of 'recommendations'.
Bonus is quack gone and thistle pushed back.

Weed control is better after harvest, shorter days, chem goes down the roots harder. No Wheat to shade the weeds. No tracks in the crop. Swathed wheat/combined dry or dried, for ever without preharvest.

[vvalk]

quote=Retired;336940]VValk YOU are the problem assholes that dont give a shit as long as you can turn a profit,let those bastards eat glyo and learn to like it. The sooner gone the better as some dont respect what it is realy meant for,too dam bad if you cant farm 10,000acres without it.[/QUOTE]

No doubt preharvest will be a thing of the past and has never been practiced on our farm. For years when I was involved in farm politics, I argued that preharvest would not be accepted for long. That isn't the argument I was making. How could you possibly argue that glysophate isnt the biggest change to how we farm. Its what make min/zero till possible. Whats wrong with RR canola helping your rotations? Agreed you cant include RR corn or soy.
Am I missing something retired? You obviously don't farm anymore and probably are that jealous guy at the coffee shop who hates successful farmers. I don't farm for the romantic notion of it or the lifestyle, I farm for profit and I'm not ashamed of it.

[iceman]

Not sure what you mean by too green. Obviously weight loss is silly. (I'm a little color blind)
Here, if you want dry wheat to cut in first half Sept, your spraying a little ahead of 'recommendations'.
Bonus is quack gone and thistle pushed back.

If you wouldn't swath it 2 weeks it's a little young yet.

Seed the crop
Put all the groceries down
Spray for this that and the other thing for crop health. Green longer makes grain you know
Than spray roundup and lose yield because it's too early.

Who are we working for again?

Iceman out

[sumdumguy]

The choice is ours. The BTO's hold the future of no-till in their "profitable" little palms. It is quite a trade-off, isn't tit Retired?

[Retired]

vvalk yes I am more or less retired,no im not jelous,racist,homophobic, but I do get pissed at those that think everyone should have a good dose of glyco,and all sprays that let them farm way more than they could without there chem fix.. Not to mention glyco was and is a very useful chem that we will all lose the right to use because some have no concince when it come to the use of it .

[mcfarms]

Probably the best gift I will leave my son that my father didnt leave me is increasing organic matter , building top soil and feeding at least twice the people of the world per acre than he did. Glyphosphate has been vital to that in our dark brown soil zone. Trying to use it wisely and sparingly as possible through rotation both crops and systems but would be so negatively impacted without it I don't even want to ponder it.