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    Note to Conservatives: There is no future in Donald Trump Lite

    JOHN IBBITSON
    Note to Conservatives: There is no future in Donald Trump Lite

    John Ibbitson

    The Globe and Mail

    Published Sunday, Jan. 15, 2017 7:28PM EST

    Last updated Sunday, Jan. 15, 2017 11:25PM EST

    To varying degrees, several candidates for the Conservative leadership seek to unravel the conservative coalition forged by Stephen Harper, hoping to replace it with a populist, nativist movement similar to the one that elected Donald Trump.

    Either they will fail and a Harper Conservative will win the leadership, or one will succeed, condemning the Conservative Party to many years in the wilderness. Because the Trump coalition simply doesn’t exist in this country.

    Canada routinely ranks among the happiest nations on earth. The 2016 United Nations World Happiness Report had us at sixth, behind the Nordic countries and Switzerland.

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    Happy countries share in common governments that are committed to sound finances. They also enjoy high-quality public health care, education and other social services, something Harper Conservatives support. Harper Conservatives also join other Canadians (six-in-10, according to most polls) in endorsing high levels of immigration. Immigrants are welcome in Canada because our immigration policy is based on economic self-interest rather than compassion, and because the points-based system ensures that no one ethnic group dominates others.

    And although the Ontario manufacturing sector has shed hundreds of thousands of jobs since 2000, the province as a whole is prospering, powered by the service-sector economy of Greater Toronto, the high-tech sector centred in Kitchener-Waterloo, and new, smaller, manufacturers springing up in Southwestern Ontario. (I reported on the Southwestern Ontario economy last February.)

    In this context, another word for happiness is trust. If citizens trust their government to spend tax dollars on needed services, their police to treat them fairly, their central bank to protect a sound currency and so on, then populist uprisings will be few and weak. All in all, Canadian citizens trust the Canadian state.

    But in the United States, trust is eroding, thanks to foolish wars, government waste and free-riding fat cats, leading to ideological warfare and populist rebellions.

    In the rust-belt states that swung to Mr. Trump, white working- and middle-class voters blame foreigners for taking away their factory jobs, environmentalists for shutting down the coal mines, Latino migrants for changing the ethnic mix of their communities, and Muslims for making them feel less safe. They trust neither the state nor each other.

    There are doubtless some Canadians who are this angry. But you won’t find many of them in the suburban ridings of Greater Toronto and Greater Vancouver, dominated by new Canadians. You won’t find many of them in Calgary and Edmonton. People are hurting there, but they know the downturn in oil and gas prices is to blame for the slump, not immigrants or low-wage factory workers overseas.

    That doesn’t mean Kellie Leitch, who is channelling a toned-down version of Trump memes, has no chance of winning the leadership. Only about 100,000 Conservative party members will vote for a leader, and that membership is older and whiter than the nation itself.

    But whoever wins will have to appeal to voters in Mississauga-Erin Mills, to choose just one Greater Toronto example. That riding is 60 per cent non-white. In 2011, the Conservatives won the riding with 21,646 votes. In 2015, that vote went up slightly, to 21,716. Contrary to popular belief, the Conservatives held their suburban immigrant base in the last election.

    But the Liberals took the riding by nearly 6,000 votes. Two thousand NDP voters switched to the Liberals, and the overall turnout increased by about 9,000 votes. (At 68 per cent nationally, turnout in the 2015 election was the highest since 1993).

    Will turnout in 2019 drop back down to the post-2000 norm of around 60 per cent? How many disillusioned Liberal voters can be won over to the Conservative side? Can Conservatives broaden their support among suburban immigrant voters? These are the questions Conservative strategists should be asking – not whether the party can foment and surf a populist backlash.

    Riding a wave of anger won’t get you very far in the sixth-happiest place on earth.

    #2
    Oleary is in tomorrow.

    Now maybe Scheer... Trost ...and others will **** off.....


    Scheer is a lifetime politician....useless ****. ..

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      #3
      Can you please spare us from your bullshit on here. You must be the most negative person around ESPECIALLY when you don't seem to have people thinking and acting the way you think they should. Your politics have no tolerance for any opinion from others unless it's your way of thinking. You strike me as a liberal bully but that seems to be ok in today's society.

      Have a nice day.
      P.s. I'm sure you will have an insulting comment for me like how I'm a brainwashed conservative or brad wall crony or maybe a loser trump supporter blah blah blah.

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        #4
        I like o'leary at least he's honest and has no agenda except for helping canada and Canadians.

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          #5
          Just curious ...Wheatking. ...is that pointed at me?

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            #6
            That article says what we already know.
            Canada is what Ont and Que want it to be. Or what they believe. And now the cores of all the larger cities as well. A canadian trump wont fly here.
            Cant stop us flyover folk from hollering bullshit as loud as we can though.

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              #7
              I just like the way oleary puts things .... doesn't matter who....none of this crap that everyone gets a medal. ...


              The press has said he won't win because he doesn't have the numbers. ....I have no political alliances and never given to a political person or party....but that's enough for me to put something into oleary's campaign....plus all the deadbeats supporting sheer. ..guys like Ritz, Stewart, brkich etc. ..

              I like to see people from outside the political establishment run....the rest are whipped.....
              Last edited by bucket; Jan 17, 2017, 16:03.

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                #8
                Originally posted by bucket View Post
                Oleary is in tomorrow.

                Now maybe Scheer... Trost ...and others will **** off.....


                Scheer is a lifetime politician....useless ****. ..
                Agreed.

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by bucket View Post
                  Just curious ...Wheatking. ...is that pointed at me?
                  NO, No. chuckchuck. He seems ready to either start a fight or carry one on with his political views. He seems to have zero tolerance for anyone elses views or political points.

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                    #10
                    I'm agreeing with you on the oleary idea bucket 100%

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                      #11
                      As an example, I don't like what trudeau stands for or what he is doing to our country. He is the most unqualified person that could have been put into that job, but it is what it is. Now on the other hand put a conservative in power and the left is going nuts with violent protests, insults and even threats, That's just the plain hard truth.

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                        #12
                        Oleary has a longer answers to most questions than trump's repetitive quips....

                        He does put some thought into policy....although the pay for a senate seat is just a little out there....but I suspect he will tone it down....

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by bucket View Post
                          Oleary is in tomorrow.

                          Now maybe Scheer... Trost ...and others will **** off.....


                          Scheer is a lifetime politician....useless ****. ..
                          Bucket, weren't you cheering for the NDP in the last election?

                          Either way the candidate that annoys me the most is Chong and his carbon tax.....hopefully he drops out soon.
                          From what I read I'm not sure O'Leary is Conservative enough when it comes to gun laws or a carbon tax?
                          At this point I don't mind Scheer, Trost or O'Toole.....a guy will have to buy a membership if he wants to vote though.

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                            #14
                            Yes I voted ndp in the last election and here is why. ...

                            1. I couldn't vote directly for harper. Or I would have.

                            2. I am sick enough of David Anderson to have a protest vote

                            3. I knew it wouldn't matter who I voted for....

                            I don't see any leadership on either the ndp or conservative camps right now....tomorrow changes things.

                            And BTW number 4.....at least I didn't vote liberal.

                            Then you could crucify me.

                            Harper in all reality wouldn't have made it to 2019 even if he had won.

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by bucket View Post
                              Yes I voted ndp in the last election and here is why. ...

                              1. I couldn't vote directly for harper. Or I would have.

                              2. I am sick enough of David Anderson to have a protest vote

                              3. I knew it wouldn't matter who I voted for....

                              I don't see any leadership on either the ndp or conservative camps right now....tomorrow changes things.

                              And BTW number 4.....at least I didn't vote liberal.

                              Then you could crucify me.

                              Harper in all reality wouldn't have made it to 2019 even if he had won.
                              The oil prices dropped as we were moving towards the federal election. I still suspect that the conservatives secretly did not want to win that election. When Harper participated in a photo opportunity with Rob Ford, that was a really odd move.
                              As it plays out, Albertas NDP and Trudope are taking the brunt of the economic effects of the oil industry slowdown. Almost immediately blame for economic troubles are blamed on Notely and Trudeau and nobody remebers that oil dropped while Conservatives were in power.
                              I really dont like Trudeau he is proving to be a jester at best. I have to wonder if Harper/conservatives were "crazy like a fox" to lose the last election.

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