Fair German electrical supply analysis???

[oneoff]

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[chuckChuck]

No doubt there are many challenges ahead. That is why we will be still using a lot of fossil energy by 2030.

What is notable is that Germany with a much smaller land mass and a much higher population than Canada has found the space for a lot of solar, wind and biomass. We are not short of land in most of Canada.

Storage is the biggest issue with intermittent power sources. I expect we will see some better small storage options in the near future like Tesla's power wall. I am not sure if they are viable yet.

But there is considerable research investment world wide looking at these issues and we should expect that some of these issues will be solved in the next 50-100 years.

Once storage issues are figured out then solar is one of the most attractive solutions. Would you not agree since this is a very large source of fuel free electricity?

I also think energy efficiency and reducing waste are the low hanging fruit that can be worked on very easily with better building codes and higher fuel efficiency standards for all kinds of things.

[Robertbarlage]

But Germany has 17 nuclear and adding more.also they are not phasing out coal .

[Daylate]

And biomass plants have become increasingly less efficient (carbon wise) as companies get bigger and subsidies favour larger biomass plants and transportation to main plants has made it carbon hungry, hauling 2/3rds moisture plants to throw in the witches pot. Have toured some of these plants. Smaller farm ones look very efficient and appear to be powering their villages (and heating) with very field production from within a couple kms. (Plant material,raw grain, and manure).
Just seems odd to me to burn fossil fuel to grow food to turn it into fuel again when economics should favour food production over energy.

[checking]

It is a large source of fuel, but converting it to electricity isn't free. If you would portray it that way, you would receive a lot more support.

You keep feeding people sawdust biscuits, and maybe it crosses your mind that they continue to die on you.

[blackpowder]

Well Chuck2, when you make sense to me I will agree with everything you say.
Note. My uncle used to live in and still travels Germany. Apparently the residents around high density placed wind turbines are having problems with noise pollution from them. Rahr? valley so full cant place another. Hard on birds too. Dunno, never been.

[tweety]

It is interesting that during sunny windy periods generation exceeds demand and power is pushed beyond its borders.

Overcoming energy storage issues would seem to cover off a lot that problem.

So what are you suggesting then? Rip down all the solar and turbine installations today because of a power bump ?

[tweety]

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Also, they have till 2050 to work out the kinks. Pretty easy and silly to bash a project that has just started. Are the authors from Koch oil?