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    #31
    Before you spend too much time trying to prove Saskatchewan is not a good site for solar or wind consider the following story about Canada's artic. There are also references to Siberian experience. The second thing I would suggest is contact the planners at Sask Power and ask them if solar or wind are viable in Saskatchewan. Let me know what they say then we can have a better discussion about the viability of wind and solar.

    Wind, solar energy real options for Canada's remote Arctic communities
    ‘The savings are so compelling that basically you have a business case’

    By Sima Sahar Zerehi, CBC News Posted: Sep 17, 2016 4:00 AM CT Last Updated: Sep 19, 2016 6:45 AM CT
    The Raglan Mine's wind turbine in Quebec. A new study says bringing solar and wind energy to remote Arctic communities is not only environmentally beneficial, but it will also mean big savings.

    The Raglan Mine's wind turbine in Quebec. A new study says bringing solar and wind energy to remote Arctic communities is not only environmentally beneficial, but it will also mean big savings. (Tugliq Energy Co.)


    Wind, solar wouldn't cost more than diesel power in parts of Nunavut: study
    An off-grid community goes solar, and gets closer to its roots

    A University of Waterloo study says bringing solar and wind energy to Canada's remote Arctic communities is not only possible and environmentally beneficial, but it will also mean big savings.

    "If you run the system as is now, versus you run with renewables, the savings are so compelling that basically you have a business case," says University of Waterloo's Claudio Canizares,one of the authors of the study.
    Claudio Canizares

    'Renewables would be a better option,' says Canizares. (Sima Sahar Zerehi/CBC)

    The Waterloo Institute of Sustainable Energy study identifies five communities in Nunavut where hybridized electricity, including wind and solar energy, is projected to be less expensive than using diesel alone.

    "Given the state of technology and given the cost of technology in places like Nunavut where diesel generators need to be replaced somewhat soon, renewables would be a better option," says Canizares.

    Map of feasibility of renewable energy in Nunavut

    'If you run the system as is now, versus you run with renewables, the savings are so compelling that basically you have a business case,' says University of Waterloo’s Claudio Canizares. (WWF-Canada)

    The findings, which follow an earlier pre-feasibility study released in June, were shared at WWF-Canada's Arctic Renewable Energy Summit in Iqaluit. The final report is scheduled to be released in October.
    Millions saved by going green

    In some communities, using hybrid renewable energy options like wind and solar power could mean millions of dollars in savings.

    solar panels in the Arctic

    In some communities, using hybrid renewable energy options like wind and solar power could mean millions of dollars in savings. (submitted by Mariia Iakovleva)

    The study identifies Iqaluit, Sanikiluaq, Rankin Inlet, Arviat and Baker Lake as communities that could benefit the most from renewable energy, saving as much as 10 per cent of their energy costs in a 10-year span.

    In Sanikiluaq, the community with the best projected outcomes, the study projects wind and solar energy could provide 50 per cent of the community's energy needs and lead to a 35 per cent reduction in diesel use.

    That results in a projection of close to $2 million in savings over 10 years — even when including the cost of transporting and installing renewable energy technology, and maintaining it.

    Arviat shoreline

    The Arviat shoreline. 'Ideally we’d like to see as much reduction in diesel usage as possible,' says Keith Collier, director of community development in Arviat. (Peter Ewins/WWF-Canada)

    In Arviat, close to 60 per cent of the community's power can be supplied by renewable energy, reducing their diesel use by 40 per cent and their energy costs by approximately $2.5 million over 10 years.

    "Ideally we'd like to see as much reduction in diesel usage as possible," says Keith Collier, director of community development in Arviat.

    "The savings to be had there in both environmental costs and cash costs as well could be substantial."

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    Arviat has been working on installing a small 10kW solar panel on one of their hamlet buildings for several years now, but has had challenges navigating Qulliq Energy Corporation's policies and approval procedures, as well as technical and installation challenges.

    Collier says Qulliq Energy's new net metering program could signal a change in direction when it comes to legislation around renewable energy.

    The hamlet is also working on a large-scale wind and solar energy project for the community.
    Theresie Tungilik

    'I feel that now is the time to start making changes,' says Theresie Tungilik, a councillor with the Hamlet of Rankin Inlet. (Sima Sahar Zerehi/CBC)

    "I think we have to rethink what we've been doing in the last 30 years on how to save energy and fast forward to what is being presented now," says Theresie Tungilik, a councillor with the Hamlet of Rankin Inlet who attended the summit.

    Rankin Inlet has been investigating renewable energy options since the early 1980s, but the projects never came to fruition.

    Tungilik says she had many questions about the feasibility of wind and solar energy in the Arctic but presentations from experts in Alaska and the Russian Arctic helped to clear some issues, like how to prevent wind turbines from interfering with the migration routes of local wildlife like caribou.

    "I feel that now is the time to start making changes," says Tungilik.
    Lessons from Alaska and Siberia

    In Alaska, approximately 70 small communities have renewable hybrid systems using wind, solar or hydro power to reduce their dependence on diesel.

    Alaska's renewable energy system

    In Alaska approximately 70 small communities have renewable hybrid system using wind, solar or hydro power. (Gwen Holdmann)

    Gwen Holdmann, the director of the Alaska Center for Energy and Power says there's some lessons that Nunavut can learn from their experience.

    "The problem is not technology," says Holdmann. "The technology works. A lot of this comes to economics."

    Gwen Holdmann

    'The problem is not technology,' says Alaska Center for Energy and Power's Gwen Holdmann. (Sima Sahar Zerehi/CBC)

    Holdmann says there's been a great deal of advances in wind and solar technology in the past decade with companies developing specific Arctic packages that can endure harsh climates. She added that the lack of fuel subsidies and extreme high cost of diesel compelled many communities in Alaska to take action on developing renewable energy options in Alaska.

    The fact that Alaska has 92 utility companies also helped to create competitive economic conditions that made development of solar and wind energy a reality there.

    Finally, Holmann says that Alaska's movement had to be community driven, and it was only after communities rallied that the government implemented a renewable energy fund to provide grants and loans to renewable energy projects.

    "Those communities are just as remote, just as small, just as difficult to work in," says Paul Crowley, the director of WWF-Canada's Arctic Program.

    "There's no reason why we can't replicate that and adapt it to our situation here in Canada."
    Mariia Iakovleva

    'Don’t be afraid,' says Mariia Iakovleva a researcher with experience in renewable energy technologies in Siberia. (Sima Sahar Zerehi/CBC)

    "Don't be afraid," says Mariia Iakovleva, a researcher with experience in renewable energy technologies in Siberia. "Don't be closed to renewable energy."

    Iakovleva says wind and solar energy has been a reality for a decade in numerous small communities in Siberia, but admits that many communities were reluctant to adopt the technology at first.

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      #32
      I believe most of what you have shown cc is that the source, and type of energy that should be widely area used, is the economic one.

      In expensive niche markets like isolated arctic ones of Alaska and Siberia wind and solar perhaps can compete with carbon ones.

      Perhaps in those environments there could be savings, but the overriding one for me might be safety. In which case, I'd like to have a carbon backup system. Suspect you might, as well.

      Try an excursion for a winter, and post us the results.

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        #33
        Originally posted by foragefarmer View Post
        Braveheart, where do you read in any of posts me mentioning a carbon tax? I've only stated that there is great potential for Mb Hydro selling power home and abroad, that is all I've stated. Exporting something the your farm does!


        I agree with you!


        Manitoba has all this green power... and is struggling to export it. I don't get it, you'd think Ontario would be in heaven buying renewable power instead of trying to build out a clunky system... at least in the interim



        Braveheart be thankful for what you have... Manitoba had (when we lived there) a way better electricity setup than SK does. We have posts randomly through fields all single wire and 3 phase is hardly anywhere.


        Mb we had 3 phase right to the property line and we were in nowhere land... in time things will get upgraded again




        Here in SK we have the north and south sask rivers which are huge... and we have 1 generating station on them?



        Should build a few more dams... or even just current generators. That is true free power.

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          #34
          Hydro used to be and still could be a lot better. The IBEW and the NDP robbers have sucked the life out of hydro. Lineman used to care about keeping the juice flowing. Now they care about wages and benefits. At our local station they arrive to work at 8:30, go to coffee till 9:30 and are heading back to town at 3:30. Yet, there are soon to be paying customers waiting for new service hookups. Doesn't make sense to me.


          As far as investing billions to export hydro anywhere, how about making sure those importers want it. Bipole construction to the US proposed, hydro says the US wants the power, but the Us says we don't need it. When you spend billions, taking the "build it and they will come" approach won't work.

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            #35
            A point to be made is that Alaskan or North West Territories (better called by their newest names) are not the examples to be used for the vast vast majority of energy consumption. Their costs are literally astronomical; and sure just about any alternative could look very attractive.

            Someone post what it does cost for energy to live in the North and I'll bet the parts that don't "grow" locally are priced at shocking levels.


            Give me examples of anything that free; and there's something missing from the equation.

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              #36
              My son, an electrician, worked in Iqaluit for 1 1/2 years. Not enough direct sunlight for solar and too much wind for turbines is what he reported. Diesel comes in by tanker during the summer, as does the bulk of the year's non-perishable groceries. Extreme high tides makes offloading the ships a marathon task. Food is 2x -3x - 4x more than here, depending on the availability. Sometimes priced even more insanely high if a plane doesn't arrive with high-demand or "fresh" stuff. Somehow the government in its infinite wisdom thought it was helping the natives by bringing them into the town and making them dependent on the white man's way of living instead of living a subsistence lifestyle on the frozen plains. Sure, we showed them booze and drugs instead of fish, seal and whale meat...

              So, just as in similar climates (read: Canada) where electricity demand rises sharply due to climatic conditions and heavy industrial loads, "green" energy is completely unworkable.

              But keep on spouting junk if it makes you feel warm and fuzzy there chucky! Amazing, the left's greatest attribute is their ability to ignore reality...

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