'This is possible. We did it': the week Portugal ran on renewables

[seabass]

Was just gonna say that SF3. Too many deadbeats sitting on there ass in that country. More worried about renewable shit that costs a ton of money that they can't afford.

[checking]

cc.

How far along their path would Sweden be if instead of occupying 450,000 km2, they were spread out over 9,985000 km2?
Now I'm asking you to be realistic with your %ages.

Nuclear, hydroelectric, and biofuel have many detractors of a proper heat source.

[Braveheart]

So ChuckChuck is partly going to depend on MB Hydro for his renewables. Every span of hydro line there's what used to be a tree that was probably 200 years old. How many tons of carbon did that sequester over a lifetime? If Chuck is going to depend on the workers of the IBEW to keep the lights on and the heat pumping he'll shivering in the dark a lot. The grid out here can't even support the aeration fans most of us now have let alone Justin and Chuck's electric car chargers.

Wind? It costs more to build a wind farm than can be returned in revenue to cover the capital costs within the lifetime of the equipment. Most of the projects here were pushed by farmers that were struggling financially it was their "hope" for outside revenue. The other side of wind farms wanted to build for the carbon credits. Now ugly windmills are blocking what used to a pretty unspoiled skyline.

I support biofuels but how long will it be before the food before fuel crowd quashes advances there?

Emissions from engines? We traded emissions for extra urea production, packaging, transportation of DEF. Also, DEF engines seem to have higher fuel consumption, how does that help? Plus, they just don't work well. Thanks Kyoto Asshole Accord.

As far as renewables AT THIS TIME, all we are doing is trading energy sources at a net cost, with poorer performance.

Re Sweden, I don't care about Sweden. Sweden isn't Canada. We shouldn't compare ourselves to any nation on this issue. Our challenges and solutions must be our own.

Do the right thing and change your name to ChuckJustin before it's too late and our economy and nation are ruined.

[foragefarmer]

Braveheart

The Keeyask Project is a 695-megawatt which will be ready for 2021, just wondering why you feel MB Hydro will not have more than enough power for Manitobain's along with plenty for export? Not saying the whole province can be heated entirely on Hydro.

[Braveheart]

Delivery of the service and maintenance (hydro). Businesses and industries are waiting months or up to a year for service installation. Latest example is an Inetlink internet tower that was 4 months behind in hookup.

Locally, the wiring inspector went into a local farm equipment dealer and told him to quit selling aeration fans as the rural grid can't handle any more load here. He was told to screw off. I know at least 2 farmers that installed gen sets when hydro denied their permits for a pair of new single phase fans that were only 15 hp. They (hydro) said the starting would draw too many amps for the local grid.

My brother in law works for MB Hydro and says that staff such as lineman have not been replaced as retirements happened and staff levels here are at 50-60% of a few years ago, yet aging transmission lines are requiring more maintenance.

So, do I have faith that those 2 ton service trucks parked at curling rinks, hockey arenas and grocery stores can deliver extra power from a new generating station, I say not hardly.

[seabass]

We could forage. Problem is the cost to set that dam up. Will take a long time to pay it off. Dick head Stalinger stole all the money from MB Hydro from previous projects now we are borrowing to pay this one off as well as Bipole III. We gonna be in the shitter a long time. We shud have free hydro by now but piss poor management has left us here. Same thing the conservatives did in AB with a lot of the oil money.

[AlbertaFarmer5]

FWIW Portugal has 114 people per square km, Canada has 3.9 So, in trying to keep an open mind about this, if they accomplished this without covering every available acre of land, we should be capable when we have 28.5 times more area per person, should almost be possible. And a few other minor differences, such as winter, and the existence of industry here.

[Braveheart]

Part of the "Canada Brand" is pristine skies and wide open spaces. Cover that with ugly wind towers, complete with dead songbirds, and acres of mirrors and the brand is dead.

[foragefarmer]

Seabass and Braveheart


Your points are valid but, linemen can be trained and hired, lines can be up graded, and debt can be paid down. Hydro is a renewable resource and will be in greater demand in future years, therefore the potential and opportunity for MB. Hydro is there, once the dam is in operation.

[Braveheart]

What will this extra power run that's not being run by electric now? Most homes are electric or gas heat. One of our homes has a geo thermal system. There's an energy saver that works and has payback.