Refuelling stations in USA and Canada

[oneoff]

http://www.afdc.energy.gov/fuels/natural_gas_locations.html

Want to know how many hydrogen refuelling stations there are in the USA (outside California).
ANSWER that would be a whole three (yes that's three)

For Compressed natural gas; get some speed up when entering North Dakota and Montana. because there no place to top up. And no place to get repairs to a vehicle I would imagine.


Didn't bother to scroll the map up (see link at top of this thread) into Canada because I'm sure there are thosand upon thousands of miles between fill ups.


Not anywhere near ready yet?????

[sumdumguy]

Guess its a disposable car. One fill up and throw it away.

[tweety]

[URL="http://www.afdc.energy.gov/fuels/natural_gas_locations.html"]http://www.afdc.energy.gov/fuels/natural_gas_locations.html[/URL]

Just click on the little blue planet and paste your address in. Super easy and then its not a pain for every reader of your post.

[chuckChuck]

No surprise there. California usually leads North America with innovations.

But the number of charging stations for electric vehicles is large. Electric vehicles are definitely more advanced and with greater numbers in the market. Hybrid electric will make more sense in Saskatchewan at the moment. Lots in Winterpeg as taxis.

I will be using gas and diesel for the forseeable future.

[oneoff]

Correct...and for those can afford it there will be next to no changes in habits or usage. Costs will be up...we'll be less competitive with the USA and countries not following suit; and our impact on the problem will be completely negligible.

Sensible changes will happen as new technologies become available, become proven and have some worth. The failures become junk and require more energy to recycle (which incidentally isn't nearly a 100% efficient process.)

I think new Duracell batteries contain a whopping 4% content of recycled batteries.

[parsley]

At most shopping malls in Ontario, you drive up to a designated spot, plug in your smart car for free charging, compliments of the Ontario taxpayer, and leave it plugged in to charge whilst you shop. Most cars in the parking spaces are not smart cars. pars

[Klause]

We have an electric car charging station in Humboldt. Nay gas in soon Regina PA and weyburn or Estevan can't remember

[greybeard]

From what I have seen free refueling is available al over North America, including at a Peavey Mart near me.
Got to agree with pars on this one.
Conservation at it's finest.
You can stop at the Tesla showroom and pay cash for 175K car, pass everything on the freeway, and stop for a free refuel on the taxpayers.
Might make electric autos more popular.
Economics are good.

[oneoff]

If that car were a house then the government would have concerns that many were living beyond their means.

Can this crusade accomplish its goals without the full involvement of the masses; and just what country debt levels; much less than zero percent interest rates; incentives; freebees and handouts will be required and used to accomplish it.

We can't even transport bulk commodities on rail (even if it were available); there is no public transport through the vast majority of the area of North America; we haven't and never will fully tame Mother Nature and continued wasteful ways of billions of additional mouths are not being addressed.

What will happen will happen.

[oneoff]

And for those who sat they will use oil and coal and anything else for a long time...that is well beyond your control.

Your inputs of chemicals; fertilizer ammendment; supplements; feedstuffs; even the seeds themselves; your choice of fuel can and will be decided through mechanisms of banning; restrictions; record keeping; public sentiments (of the day) and of course cost.

When any become onerous or not available or through price mechanisms; temporarily out of line (fiscally, or through ; any other restriction that makes them economic; unpopular; not tolerated etc......they can become possibly permanently obsolete and the infrastructure can be lost...maybe forever)

Whole lot like combines (tractors and all sorts of equipment). You don't have a computerized Canbus integrated control that runs the motor; hydraulics, transmission; brakes; and all auxilliary functions and you're basically limiting yourself to some third world manufactured manual control machinery. You buy state of art power equipment or you can't attach and use what makes them shine.

And that some pretty awesome and expensive technology aimed at the $500,00 to 800,00 per piece of equipment market.
We're talking game changers...and its not meant for each and every current "farmer"