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    Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall stands alone against federal carbon-pricing plan

    Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall stands alone against federal carbon-pricing plan


    Shawn McCarthy

    OTTAWA — The Globe and Mail

    Published Monday, Nov. 21, 2016 5:51PM EST

    Last updated Monday, Nov. 21, 2016 7:32PM EST

    Prime Minister Justin Trudeau’s plan for a pan-Canadian climate strategy got a major boost Monday when governments in Nova Scotia and Manitoba announced their intention to adopt carbon pricing in their provinces.

    However, less than three weeks before a first ministers’ climate summit, Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall threatened Monday not to sign any deal unless Ottawa withdraws its carbon-pricing plan.

    The Liberal government has come under fire since the U.S. election from critics who argue Canada should not proceed with carbon pricing because U.S. president-elect Donald Trump has pledged to reverse direction on climate policy south of the border. Conservative opposition critics say the divergence would cause competitiveness issues for Canadian business.

    But Ottawa is proceeding with its long-planned strategy, including an announcement Monday to phase out the use of traditional coal-fired power plants by 2030, with some exceptions for provinces that can demonstrate equivalent emissions reductions while keeping a coal facility open.

    “Tackling climate change is both a challenge and a huge opportunity,” Environment Minister Catherine McKenna said Monday in announcing the coal plan. “This opportunity will attract the investments required to build a clean energy economy that will position Canada for great success in generations to come.”

    Saskatchewan’s Premier Wall has slammed the federal government for proceeding with its carbon-pricing plan despite a Trump presidency, and on Monday, he condemned its proposed coal regulations.

    “These actions have severely undermined the December meeting and have exposed the Prime Minister's disingenuous commitment to federal-provincial collaboration,” he said in a statement. “We will continue to strongly oppose any attempt to impose a federal carbon tax on Saskatchewan and will not support any agreement at the December [first ministers’] meeting unless the proposed federal carbon tax is withdrawn.”

    However, Mr. Wall now appears to be the lone opposition voice.

    Last month, provincial environment ministers stormed out of a federal-provincial-territorial meeting in protest over Mr. Trudeau’s unilateral announcement on carbon pricing. Only Saskatchewan is now refusing to adopt its own plan.

    The federal plan would require provinces to impose a $10 per tonne tax in 2018, rising to $50 by 2022, or adopt a cap-and-trade plan that meets or exceeds Ottawa’s 2030 targets.

    British Columbia, Alberta, Ontario and Quebec – four provinces that represent 80 per cent of Canada’s GHG emissions – all have implemented or announced either a carbon tax or a cap-and-trade plan. Two other provinces, New Brunswick and Newfoundland and Labrador, say they are working on carbon-price plans of their own.

    Nova Scotia had previously warned that it would not accept a proposal to close all coal-fired generating stations by 2030, nor would it accept a carbon pricing plan that would drive up fuel costs for motorists. But on Monday, Premier Stephen McNeil announced agreements with Ottawa on both measures.

    On carbon pricing, Mr. McNeil said his province will adopt a cap on emissions in the various sectors – electricity, auto, heating – but that the government will initially provide some free allowances to meet the caps and avoid a price spike. In an interview, the premier said Nova Scotia has already cut emissions by 30 per cent so is being recognized for past action to meet Ottawa’s national emission targets.

    “There will be no price shock to Nova Scotians as a result of our internal cap and trade system,” the premier said.

    On coal-fired electricity, the Nova Scotia and the federal government agreed to reach an “equivalency agreement” that will allow the province to keep some plants open well past 2030, but will achieve emission reduction levels consistent with a full phase-out.

    In a Speech from the Throne on Monday, the government of Manitoba Progressive Conservative Premier Brian Pallister said it would introduce a “made-in-Manitoba carbon pricing and climate plan” – though it is not clear whether the Manitoba effort will meet Mr. Trudeau’s minimum price threshold.
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    #2
    At best Canada might become the pilot project....no real money in it for the country with 30million people shivering in January. ...when you can't afford the power bill.

    Sell the technology....sure but Canada can sell the blueprints....once....that's about it.....then the Chinese steal them when they are invited over to see it.

    If you have never seen a Chinese delegation in an industrial plant don't comment...you know nothing.
    Last edited by bucket; Nov 22, 2016, 07:42.

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      #3
      The question is why are we burning expensive, dirty coal when their is plenty of surplus natural gas being flared all across the oil fields of Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Alberta, and North Dakota?

      If you haven't driven through the oil patch recently there is an abundance of cleaner, cheaper natural gas. Instead Brad Wall invested 1.3 billion in carbon capture to burn coal?

      We could have also purchased cleaner cheaper hydro from Manitoba.

      Brad wall has also committed to producing 50% of Saskatchewan's electricity from renewables by 2030 including solar and wind.

      If you drive from Minot to Bismarck the fields are full of windmills. Why? Because they make sense.

      Solar will be soon cheaper than coal. It already is in many parts of the world.

      Bloomberg's New Energy Finance predicts solar will get as cheap as 4 cents per kwh in the next decades. Saskatchewan's coal electricity is now at 12 cents per kwh. A little less for farm customers.

      Electricity should never be used for space heating. It is very inefficient. Multiple losses starting at the power plant and ending with line losses.

      Our entire society has been developed on cheap energy. Poorly insulated houses, bad urban design, etc.

      How many of you still leave the block heater plugged in all night? You only need a couple of hours to warm an engine using a timer. The list of waste goes on and on.

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        #4
        So in latitudes where we are and farther north how efficient is solar Nov through March ?
        Just woundering ....

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          #5
          You bet that block heater is plugged in all night if it is -30. If there is adverse weather forecasted the blade tractor is plugged in and moved to shop. See I live on a farm; with young kids and several elderly neighbours in the area - I have to be prepared to deal with the weather and be prepared to act if there is trouble or illness. We live in a harsh climate - this not a waste of energy this called being responsible.

          I also make sure my cell phone is charged so I can use the lighter app... to light a fire; I guarantee there are people stupid enough to think is is an option.

          This is Canada - we need reliable, affordable energy period.

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            #6
            Well said RTK.

            I want some of the farmers that support this shit to explain how we get buy in winter hauling grain feeding cows, fixing trucks tractors water bowls plumbing electrical issues etc under the new super expensive green shit.

            We don't plug diesel tractors in just for fun we plug them in so they start and can open the road and help us get out when its -45 with a wind chill -50 for safety and survival.

            Its not Toronto in the great ice storm that called in the army.

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              #7
              Good question furrow. Check this out as it suggests solar will work well in the north.

              http://www.nordicenergy.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/NorthSol-Presentation.pdf

              Keep in mind that central Germany is similar in latitude to the southern prairies. Lots of solar there. Many farm buildings have solar panels on the roof. Their weather is cloudier so the southern prairies is dryer and clearer which equals higher solar efficiency. Estevan SK ( Sun City) has the most sun in all of Canada.

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                #8
                LED lights are easy we run our sled shack on them but here is the question.

                Heat our home and run our equipment.

                Real easy some one explain that.

                No not Geo Thermal etc. Still need a back up.

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                  #9
                  This is from Bloomberg new energy out look 2016
                  https://www.bloomberg.com/company/new-energy-outlook/
                  Pay attention to what they say about wind and solar!

                  Power findings

                  8 eye-catching findings from this year’s report

                  Coal and gas prices stay low. A projected supply glut for both commodities cuts the cost of generating power by burning coal or gas, but will not derail the advance of renewables.
                  Wind and solar costs drop. These two technologies become the cheapest ways of producing electricity in many countries during the 2020s and in most of the world in the 2030s. Onshore wind costs fall by 41% and solar PV costs fall by 60% by 2040.[/B]
                  Asia-Pacific leads in investment, representing 50% of all new investment worldwide. Despite slower growth in the near-term, China remains the most important center of activity.
                  Electric car boom. EVs increase global electricity demand by 8% – reflecting BNEF’s forecast that they will represent 35% of new light-duty vehicle sales in 2040, some 90 times the 2015 figure.
                  Cheap batteries everywhere. The rise of EVs further squashes the cost of lithium-ion batteries, boosting power storage and working with other flexible capacity to help balance renewables.
                  A limited ‘transition fuel’ role for gas outside of the US, with only 3% growth in gas demand for power to 2040, and generation peaking in 2027.
                  Coal’s diverging trajectories. Coal generation plummets in Europe and peaks in 2020 in the US and in 2025 in China; however it increases 7% globally due to rapid growth in other Asian and African emerging markets.
                  2⁰C scenario. On top of the forecasted $9.2tn investment in zero-carbon power, an extra $5.3tn is needed by 2040 to prevent power-sector emissions rising above the IPCC’s ‘safe’ limit of 450 parts per million.

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                    #10
                    In October our solar lights on deck didn't even come on because of no sun !

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by furrowtickler View Post
                      So in latitudes where we are and farther north how efficient is solar Nov through March ?
                      Just woundering ....
                      Come on now you are asking technical questions, these projects are just about feeling good and "doing what's right". In reality all wind and solar power plants will have to have more reliable forms on standby for the periods of no wind, no sun, maintenance, etc.
                      Lifespan of bearings and parts in turbines, birds killed, carbon footprint for parts and trucking of parts, space required for inefficient turbines will all be minor issues to deal with according to the Toronto yuppies.

                      Prices of electrical will definitely increase severely like in Ontario and Great Britain but a few people in Montreal will feel better while us farmers watch our aeration & grain drying charges double or triple.

                      Get this, in Ontario they mentioned removing the tax from the hydro bills now since costs are out of hand.....since the taxpayers and hydro consumers are the same people they'll be paying the tax. 😂

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                        #12
                        U ever got the maintenance bill for those windmills?

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                          #13
                          Wind and Solar Are Crushing Fossil Fuels
                          Record clean energy investment outpaces gas and coal 2 to 1.


                          http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2016-04-06/wind-and-solar-are-crushing-fossil-fuels

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                            #14
                            Imagine that , an eastern rag that promotes the continued milking of the west, surprise surprise. BW is right on this even if the Feds have trumped him for now.

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                              #15
                              Solar panels get frosty and snow covered very easily as they do not warm in the sun. Also our winter hours of sunlight are very short and sun stays low. Cloudy months like October happen. I use 400 sq ft solar thermal and photovolaic panels. I hope they will eventually pay for themselves before hail gets em, but do not shut down the coal plants.

                              Wind power is high maintenance, kills birds, and never seem to reach their stated lifespan. Wind is gusty and directions vary. The loads placed on turbines and bearings are mind boggling. They still routinely catch on fire as a suitable grease does not exist.
                              Last edited by biglentil; Nov 22, 2016, 09:29.

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