KAP and Carbon tax

[fjlip]

Farmers’ should be exempted from paying a price on any carbon emitted directly from agricultural production, KAP says. Direct emissions include those from burning fossil fuels and applying fertilizer to produce food or fibre, as well as methane from livestock.

However, farmers would pay indirectly when buying products or services, such as nitrogen fertilizer, because carbon prices paid by manufacturers would presumably be passed on.

KAP also wants some of the revenue from carbon pricing invested in helping farmers cut carbon emissions, sequester carbon and develop more climate-hardy crops.

“There was a lot of concern (during the discussion) and rightfully so,” KAP president Dan Mazier said after the meeting. “I think there is a lot of misinformation out there on what is going on in other provinces.”

Because Manitoba has few, large carbon emitters, agriculture contributes 40 per cent of the province’s gross emissions, KAP general manager James Battershill told the meeting.

The Paris agreement on climate change, which Canada has ratified, along with the United States, China, India, the European Union and many others, took effect Nov. 4.

Signing countries are legally bound to hold global warming to no more than 2 C above pre-industrial levels. To do so countries will have to cut greenhouse gas emissions. Scientists say if that 2 C threshold is exceeded, climate change will likely be disastrous and irreversible.

oo, I am so f*cking scared of "warmer, drier" prairies!...my comment....


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[grassfarmer]

Don't be complaining about it being too wet then if you're not prepared to do anything about it. Cause and effect.

[biglentil]

Grass has the solution he has the world's only carbon dioxide sequestering cows. They exhale rainbows and their farts smell like daisies.

[stonepicker]

Foolish scientists to think that humans are the only cause of climate change over the last 50 years, and that we can keep the world temp. down by human intervention. I guess the last 6,000 years of climate change never really happened, because humans weren't a factor then. The emperor has no clothes!!

[bgmb]

Stupid idea KAP the biggest cost to farmers is going to be on fertilizer so if fertilizer isn't exempt could be 10-20 bucks an acre across the farm cost. So basically a farmer organization is supporting a $10-20/ac tax on its members?

[fjlip]

Don't be complaining about it being too wet then if you're not prepared to do anything about it. Cause and effect.

GRASS ! It's HOT and DRY, Cold and WET that go together! Most of us are sick and tired of COLD and WET!
YOU said yourself that GGD in COLD WET Alberta were HALF of MB!

And NO we could never change the climate....Taxes or GREEN....

[blackpowder]

Whatever the outcome shall be. I get a laugh envisioning Ma Nature listening to a few humans declare they wont allow the earth to warm 2°.
With food abundance and 75% of the pop food insecure, maybe work on that first???
If ISIS had lots of coal would they quit diggin? Would there be no buyers if the price was low enough??

[Hamloc]

The latest proposal by the federal Liberal's to reduce C02 output from 732 mega tonnes to 150 by 2050 is something we all need to be aware of. Irregardless of what you believe if this is imposed upon us by government the changes and higher costs are hard to comprehend. Would organic farming lower or raise net GHG emissions? How many industries would be downsized or eliminated? We can all get mad but it won't change what the governing elites are planning to do.

[15444]

No big deal fellas. Once the economy tanks for a few quarters, the Feds will back peddle big time. Either that, or SK will begin negotiations to join the US and Ontario will need all of Alberta's money, every cent, to pay for all the auto workers on social assistance. Why would any car company manufacture in Canada if they have to hike the value of it when they import into the US. #LetsMakeCanadaALoserAgain!

[Flatlander]

Only a busy body world improver could truly believe that taxing me on inputs relates to an adjustment in the weather. FM

[grassfarmer]

GRASS ! It's HOT and DRY, Cold and WET that go together! Most of us are sick and tired of COLD and WET!
YOU said yourself that GGD in COLD WET Alberta were HALF of MB!

And NO we could never change the climate....Taxes or GREEN....

I guess you didn't read the article I posted to start the thread "Water and Climate change". I thought someone living in the wet zone would have been at least curious as to possible explanations.

[foragefarmer]

15444


" Either that, or SK will begin negotiations to join the US "


Sure, and you can take all your debt with you when you supposedly join. You can also start paying for every hospital visit as well and when someone in your family needs an operation of some kind, or has a heart condition or needs cancer treatment you can fork it over big time. Please don't give me some B.S. about their insurance coverage, had cousin across the line who had insurance and still had to pay $5000.00 when her child was born, and to boot had twins so it came to $10,000.00.


When you send your children for post secondary education, maybe you would like to pay the $30-50 thousand a year.

Do you really think your paying that much more taxes than the USA if you are incorporated and paying 12% to make up the differences in health costs and education alone?

Why wait for Sask to join, go it alone and then you won't have to take the provincial debt with you!

[seabass]

Trouble is we are paying for all the dead heads in our system. I would gladly pay my own way as long as I'm not paying for u left wing looney tunes.

[15444]

15444


" Either that, or SK will begin negotiations to join the US "


Sure, and you can take all your debt with you when you supposedly join. You can also start paying for every hospital visit as well and when someone in your family needs an operation of some kind, or has a heart condition or needs cancer treatment you can fork it over big time. Please don't give me some B.S. about their insurance coverage, had cousin across the line who had insurance and still had to pay $5000.00 when her child was born, and to boot had twins so it came to $10,000.00.


When you send your children for post secondary education, maybe you would like to pay the $30-50 thousand a year.

Do you really think your paying that much more taxes than the USA if you are incorporated and paying 12% to make up the differences in health costs and education alone?

Why wait for Sask to join, go it alone and then you won't have to take the provincial debt with you!

The US is headed down the path to single payer health insurance. Maybe not in the next 4 years, but in the next 10, yes. Canada on the other hand, is going to have to get inventive if they want to keep theirs. Raising taxes to keep the system alive is not going to work. Fewer workers and more takers is going to be the norm. When you have foreign mothers coming in just to give birth and then handing the taxpayers the bill, that is killing the system.

As far as $30-50k a year for tuition, you must have damn smart kids, because that is Ivy League tuition rates. My kids would do quite well in life with a community college and have their tuition paid off in a few years, rather than whining that they are drowning in debt and need subsidies or entire notes written off.

I just suggest that Sask join the US for their best interest - because the hole that Ontario has made will suck the life out of everything in the West. Just wait, Trudeau is going to tweak the transfer payment program and turn it into a national stabilization fund. Those provinces that have money will have to bailout the ones deep in debt. That is how lefties/socialists think.

[fjlip]

I guess you didn't read the article I posted to start the thread "Water and Climate change". I thought someone living in the wet zone would have been at least curious as to possible explanations.

Reread that thread and you got a semi load of counter points from posters. I believe them NOT you.

History tells us HOT and DRY in the 30's, SFA human blame, our area which I experienced, in the COLD WET 50's was f*cking swamp. 70's cold and Wet again! The 80's were hot and dry, yay finally! 90's were okay, starting 2010 again disastrously, WET because COLD.

It has all happened before and will repeat again, nothing to do with CO2, or man. It's a huge earth, with cycles, random air currents, continuously CHANGING!

Wish more of the 600 plus viewers would add their two cents, come on it doesn't hurt to state an opinion! Simply... DO YOU WANT IT COLDER?