SummerFallow 25% in 2017 so all the ag parasites suffer

[cuban_assassin]

How bout everybody taking 25 % of there acres out of production in 2017. Curtail production cause at the current prices the market is telling us they don't want it anyway. Pass on some suffering to all those overpaid industry parasites drinking free booze and playing golf with our money.
As wet as it is it may end up happening anyhow.

[Retired]

Would be a good plan BUT trying to get farmers to agree on anything,except rent is to high) is like agreeing on politics. Not going to happen.

[agchat]

I agree with Retired. Farmers rally together .Hahahahahahahahahahahah. Not only that maybe get some of these bugs and diseases in check. Neighbor who has been a long long time direct seeder just said the other day. Its great for the land continuous cropping, but has become a complete flop and a failure in regards to diseases. It is time to come up with another plan he says. Besides some on here would rather strangle there own grandmother than to see some unsown ground for a year.

[Richard5]

How bout everybody taking 25 % of there acres out of production in 2017. Curtail production cause at the current prices the market is telling us they don't want it anyway. Pass on some suffering to all those overpaid industry parasites drinking free booze and playing golf with our money.
As wet as it is it may end up happening anyhow.

Great idea but if anyone wants land back around the quill lakes (me included) you can't have summerfallow. Need to grow a forage crop or something that keeps snow and moisture on the land

[wmoebis]

Great idea but if anyone wants land back around the quill lakes (me included) you can't have summerfallow. Need to grow a forage crop or something that keeps snow and moisture on the land

If farmers got paid for CO2 sink on green manure crop would they seed more?

[Partners]

Might be that many acres under water on our farm next spring.

[Guest]

Might be that many acres under water on our farm next spring.

no doubt about it around here , I have never saw the land so wet , even in the spring . been raining since noon here. and ruts a foot deep everywhere

[grassfarmer]

If farmers got paid for CO2 sink on green manure crop would they seed more?

Don't think that's going to happen. Only way you'll get paid to sequester carbon is if it never gets released again.

[fjlip]

Great idea but if anyone wants land back around the quill lakes (me included) you can't have summerfallow. Need to grow a forage crop or something that keeps snow and moisture on the land

Agree SMF, is a soil killer when wet, only increases salinity, saturates soil, kills bacteria, destroys organic matter, increased compaction. Till spring and fall, buy SPIKES again, good old days. However VT with any type of DISK will compact even more, search Midwest compaction studies. I remember the disker days! And the hard pan!

Cuban you are dreaming like Focus on Sabbatical in the 90's, like hell farmers will ever agree, we are always divided, thus easily conquered and taken advantage of. Nothing will change, own worst enemies.

[hobbyfrmr]

How do you cash flow machinery payments and land mortgage payments with 25% of your land not working for you?
Summer fallow costs at least $100.00 per acre not calculating wind and water erosion. Then you have to consider degredation of the soil you have so carefully built in your farming career. All this for a chance at better prices? It does not sound logical.
With $100.00/acre You make about an extra 3-4 passes of the sprayer to protect your investment in a growing season. Fungicide X2 , micronutrients, top dress a little more fertilizer at the right time and then its all Guns n' Roses.
Or else, expand your seeded acres by 25% with the same set of machinery. That seems to be the dominant trend.

[farming101]

Maybe buy only enough inputs for an average crop. It works.

[hobbyfrmr]

Guns n' Roses !

# welcome to the jungle !

# November Rain !

Yes sir.

[riders2010]

Are all of you really wet or not?
Our area will not be seeding at all next year we are already at a 60 to 40
Chance of not. Ditches are full of water snow in swaths the water table is above ground.

[Richard5]

How do you cash flow machinery payments and land mortgage payments with 25% of your land not working for you?
Summer fallow costs at least $100.00 per acre not calculating wind and water erosion. Then you have to consider degredation of the soil you have so carefully built in your farming career. All this for a chance at better prices? It does not sound logical.
With $100.00/acre You make about an extra 3-4 passes of the sprayer to protect your investment in a growing season. Fungicide X2 , micronutrients, top dress a little more fertilizer at the right time and then its all Guns n' Roses.
Or else, expand your seeded acres by 25% with the same set of machinery. That seems to be the dominant trend.

Very easy Hobby, adjust that part of your business that's out if line

[cuban_assassin]

Okay so if you don't like smf then look at alternate crops or just reduce what you put into your crop. The wet falls financial cost needs to be passed on throughout the industry not just felt by farmers. There are too many people involved with ag that get paid very well to provide a product or service to the primary producer who have no accountability. They sell sell sell and don't give a shit! Well maybe its time they felt the pinch a little!! Its time all these so called ag experts are held to account!!!