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  • Klause
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 3644

    Snake Oil & Other Services Companies' Futures

    So companies like ATP and whoever makes the new snake oil growth regulator… and the hundreds of others making seed primers magical coatings, etc…. What does everyone think will happen to them with a drop in grain prices?


    Their products won't get used any more….


    What about companies like AgriTrend? Saik is a man I'd like to punch some days… recent article in the producer basically says if you don't use variable rate you'll go broke. (I.E. if you don't use our services you'll go broke).

    VR works out to using the same amount of fert per quarter just not at the same level everywhere.

    Is the writing on the wall for some of these businesses?
  • ado089
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2004
    • 1754

    #2
    I don't know. Farmers have a tendency to double down when times are tough. Regardless I think that with $8 canola and $4.50 wheat and 50-70 cent nitrogen, soil sampling is very important. I should disclose that I sample for western Ag though.

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    • checking
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2008
      • 2393

      #3
      Variable rate in SE SK. has been neutered by weather. Depressions can't be seeded, so all products are available for the upper land at a boosted constant rate.

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      • samhill
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 896

        #4
        VR requires satellite which sends all data to the universe. When you trade your combine, JD et al sell data on it to people of interest.
        There are lots of reasons to promote it.

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        • farmaholic
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 17483

          #5
          samhill, I'm sure those who bought the "technology" "signed off". To me it would be an invasion of privacy. Why is our information so important to the Industry but everyone else's is a ****ing "TOP SECRET FILE"??? Information is power.

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          • greybeard
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2004
            • 427

            #6
            A very smart guy once told me that a bare seed coat was a highly refine way to get water into the seed to start germination.
            Everything else just forms a barrier.

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            • Hopalong
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2013
              • 1244

              #7
              Would not discount variable rate technology entirely.
              Still a lot of work and research to be done but think it's day will come.

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              • ado089
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2004
                • 1754

                #8
                Vr is awsome but very few people know how to do it properly, certainly not the big players.

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                • farmaholic
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 17483

                  #9
                  I don't think BTOs want to take the time to split hairs,it takes time. Allot of data collection. Keeping the tech working.

                  Not sahing none don't though

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                  • ado089
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 1754

                    #10
                    Give me a topo and e.c. Map and I'll make you a prescription that will fit like a glove and you don't need to keep any data if you don't want.

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