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Oil 'n Gas Capital Drying Up

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  • errolanderson
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 3147

    Oil 'n Gas Capital Drying Up

    Talk in Calgary suggests investment in
    Canada's oil and gas industry may now be
    at an all-time low. The investment
    values haven't been turned off this
    tightly since the 2002 Enron fiasco.
    Investors are now showing serious
    caution which is choking off field
    activity and revenues. And this is
    likely just-the-beginning to Alberta
    gov't budget woes.

    Latest Cdn GDP for 4th quarter showed a
    0.6% growth rate, but in reality is
    Canada's economy truly still expanding?

    Real estate in this city is still doing
    well with some properties still changing
    hands above list.

    Canada appears no longer the economic
    sweetheart of the G7 which has been
    partial cause for the weaker loonie
    (IMO).

    Will be an interesting summer for
    Canada's major economic engine to see
    how markets adjust to these new
    financial realities and ongoing
    government overspending.
  • bucket
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 17035

    #2
    Anyone with money already knows that oil in western canada is trading at a 30buck plus per barrel discount to the world price.

    No sense in investing. Its short term thinking because when things turn (maybe the announcement of keystone or the pipeline to the west coast) they will pay more to develop because of a mini boom created.

    Never understood why people insist on creating boom and bust cycles. Why not continue to develop at a moderate rate instead of chasing the dream?

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    • liberty
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2002
      • 345

      #3
      "Never understood why people insist on creating boom and bust cycles. Why not continue to develop at a moderate rate instead of chasing the dream?"

      When central banks create a boom through the use of ultra-low interest rates, few people ever consider that this will result in a bust as sure as night follows day. Most people are not interested in developing at a moderate rate because this would entail long term thinking, hard work and the discipline to do without short term luxuries. Instead, most people want everything, and they want it right now. Booms give people the illusion that they can have their cake and eat it too.

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      • bucket
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 17035

        #4
        I sort of understand low interest rates to create a recovery of the economy, but to get people buying land or houses for three times the actual value that becomes a problem.

        If interest rates go up, alot of people working won't be able to put gas in their cars to get to work.

        And yet these are educated people.

        But I am educated and a couple bad seasons will do me in as well.

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        • ColevilleH2S
          Senior Member
          • May 2007
          • 1662

          #5
          Will it all just crash already! I've got
          cash to deploy, need blood on the
          streets.

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          • hobbyfrmr
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2008
            • 3178

            #6
            I agree with coleville

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            • bucket
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 17035

              #7
              hobby

              I thought you were going to pursue that "special" deal over my way.

              I can find a home for that cash!

              Maybe if I say the price is now 1500 an acre you will be more interested?

              Seems to be the way they get more investors interested.

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              • sumdumguy
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2007
                • 12020

                #8
                Short the bugger and watch her skyrocket. LOL

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                • hobbyfrmr
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2008
                  • 3178

                  #9
                  Bucket I did not take it too seriously. I am content
                  with my operation but occasionally entertain
                  thoughts of relocating.
                  I would like to narrow down where the farm is
                  mostly out of curiosity.
                  You can email me at hobbyfrmr@yahoo.com for a
                  bigger bullship session.

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                  • phoenix64
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 119

                    #10
                    not surprised with investment waning in the oil sector, we new 3 years ago if we couldn't export this oil especially from the bakken we would have a bottle neck, guess what....we got it. We need pipelines and refining capacity or western canada and north dakota will suffer.

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