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    #71
    i think when the cwb disappears marketing will not be the easy exercise you imagine. organic producers will have some options and niches that will for short periods of time be lucrative but not easy to capture. for conventional producers the new world won't be much different than the present. they'll have essentially what cattlemen have had but with a high dollar. even at today's prices by the time they position their grain somewhere in n. dakota or montana when they find someone to deal with and meet american regulations the basis will be disappointing. you saw what happened when n. dakota owned mill was going to buy canadian wheat. it will happen in spades when the cwb is gone. the cwb is irrelevant in today's world. you're the negative, bitter one who's thirty years behind the times in terms of how the world operates. you ought to take off the blinders and travel to see how it works. i was in e. germany before the wall came down and it opened my eyes. what a depressing experience but it did make me see other things about where i live, too and n. america is not perfect either.

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      #72
      mussolini described fascism as government for and by the most powerful corporate interests. take a look south.

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        #73
        Ah, you are too scared to go out there and sell what you grow!!:

        "when the cwb disappears marketing will not be the easy exercise"

        That's the problem. You're worrying before you start. Monopolists are scared to go it on their own?

        Ikea sells furniture to Canadians. Are they terrified? Nope.

        The USA is not the sole alternate grain market in the world. (Hint-Other countries buy grain)

        Japan waltzed into the USA's production-line back yards and simply out-sold the Americans because the Japanese LISTENED TO THEIR CUSTOMERS, and wrote it down, and made cars that don't rattle so badly. Did it work? Yes.


        In the cattle business, jensend, I watched the decline of the monopolist-protectionists who autiomatically bred in-bulls the size of large dogs, year after year, and sold these dwarfs to farmers, by way of forced monopoly legislation, into commercial cattle herds.The commercial man bore the cost of the poor weights of calves and the unthrifty calves, and the overwhelming stupidity fof forced legislation.

        Finally, the commercial cattleman plain bloody revolted, hired a plane, went to Europe and imported what he wanted and needed.

        The monopoly legislation fell by the wayside, past the blind politicians, too gutless to make changes and too stupid to figure out how to make changes.

        But the monopolist, to the bitter end, tried to keep his monopoly on selling registered bulls.


        It takes a size larger than marbles to decide to rent the plane.







        That's a key point.

        Parsley

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          #74
          it's a natural progression: free enterprise, capitalism, fascism. especially when you consider human nature. the first stage is wonderful; too bad about the last.

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            #75
            btw, jensend, I'm glad you escaped from E. Germany.

            Parsley

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              #76
              I want to wrap up what I've learned from my discourse with you, and properly think about them.

              jensend Gems:

              1. If your don't like the CWB, and the CWB system, leave.

              2. All G8 citizens are hopelessly deterioratingly bad, have no say in how their country is run, and are either now fascist, or almost fascist.


              3. Marketing without the CWB would not be easy.

              4. People visiting East Germany are classified as world-travellers.

              5. The USA is the top fascist country in the world.

              Parsley is pondering each point you made and giving them due consideration:

              1. Can and must the CWB system be changed or should I pack?

              2. Is it possible that people want a good country, and can have one if individuals roll up their sleeves and make changes or should I snooze?


              3.Could it be that not just travelling into other countries, but travelling in your own country, is helpful too? Would seeing how a regulation is applied in one part of the Canada and comparing it to how the regulation is applied in another part of the country be enlightening about our insitutions or should I have a wine to forget it?


              4. If the USA is so horrible, why is it the most desirable place in the world for immigrating applicants to apply to, and oh, should I cancel my trip coming up, and yikes, also my trip to Sweden?

              You have certainly caused me pausm.

              Parsley

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                #77
                i guess we each realize we have nothing to talk about once again. have a good june day. i know i will.

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                  #78
                  I'm curious parsley, What was the forced monopoly legislation that led to inbreeding in the cattle industry? was it a cwb program?

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                    #79
                    Grassfarmer,

                    No person got thrown in jail for running a good herd genetic plan... or by producing the best most efficient cattle.

                    How did you dream up the Idea that these two are comparable...

                    Get Angus... and get smart!

                    You can even choose Black or Red!

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                      #80
                      I didn't dream it up TOM, perhaps your buddy parsley did hence my question to her.

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