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Fertilizer Market Report - Looks like trouble ahead...

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  • joedales
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2006
    • 1027

    Fertilizer Market Report - Looks like trouble ahead...

    Here is a link to the Wells Fargo Fertilizer Market Report...

    Looks like higher prices ahead....huge demand with increased acres and global demand..

    Anyone have any ideas on how to manage crops and fertilizer to maintain profits?

    Click on the link to see the pdf report.

    <a href="https://www.wellsfargo.com/downloads/pdf/com/research/agricultural/agupapr08fertilizer.pdf"target="blank"><u>Wells Fargo Fertilizer Market Report.
    </u>Wells Fargo Research.
    </a><br>
  • TOM4CWB
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2000
    • 16511

    #2
    Joe,

    Don't spend more on fertilizer... than you can pay off in the next 6 months... CASH.

    If we speculate... end up short on revenue... and bankrupt... who will even blink?

    I see no tears from gov. on the plight of hog producers... just a 'how sad... too bad' see you later attitude.

    What is the solution... when there is a structural shift? The world is short of food... yet food producers are going out of business... right left and centre.

    There is no question... we are headed for a big mess in our food markets!

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    • jensend
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2002
      • 1531

      #3
      tom from business plans we put together over the period of about 1995 to 2003 i would say the structural shift you refer to now actually really got rolling in about 2000. the main change in structure has been in the concentration of ownership of everything but farms. in spite of everyone's fascination with growing farms, farm property is still widely held compared to the inputs sector (including credit)or the grain handling and marketing sectors. when you look back to the time after the last real grain price increase (the 80's) what other industries realized is that they could insulate themselves from increased costs and high interest rates by mergers and acquisitions and passing all costs on with little risk. that's when the structural change in agriculture took another leap and since about 2000 has been gaining big momentum. what to do about it? - wait for the crash and try to take advantage of that maybe? what do you think?

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      • Burbert
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 2242

        #4
        Don't use too much fertilizer. Grow some peas, grow some clover, summerfallow. Grow a smaller crop, produce less, that way prices stay up and the demand remains constant. Pick some rocks, kill some weeds, apply for government programs and assistance (do it yourself, save some cash). Talk to grain guys, who knows, maybe they can help out with some cheap cow food. DON'T BORROW. Lets solve the problem together by not working against each other, and pandering to angribusiness and getting sucked in, yet again!

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        • Ron
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2001
          • 718

          #5
          Buy manure from a hog guy instead of whining when you have to pay part of the hauling, look at the nutrient value instead of chiseling him down to nothing. It might help you keep a market for that frozen wheat this fall.

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          • SASKFARMER3
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2006
            • 14485

            #6
            On our farm its simple get to a point of no Suppler credit and any operating. The 07 Crop just about got us there. Pay down debt as much as can, keep purchases of equipment to a minimum, Build up savings. Then when the crash happens see who wins. Its simple do opposite of what the rest are doing. Sad part is fact that Feb 25 2008 might be our highest prices ever received for our product, then the sh--hit the fan. Pay down debt is still king. I feel the 07 crop was the high point. But still funny when the world is so short of food yet who is winning Sask potash, Oil, Grain companies. etc.

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            • SASKFARMER3
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2006
              • 14485

              #7
              Jan 03, 08 390 374 351 1400

              Jan 10, 08 413 388 349 1400

              Jan 17, 08 425 378 356 1400

              Jan 24, 08 425 365 390 1400

              Jan 31, 08 510 343 396 1400

              Feb 07, 08 522 323 388 1400

              Feb 14, 08 553 328 389 1400

              Feb 21, 08 565 329 405 1400

              Feb 28, 08 565 324 414 1545

              Mar 06, 08 565 338 442 1545

              Mar 13, 08 560 377 453 1545

              Mar 20, 08 558 397 458 1727

              Mar 27, 08 535 398 459 1727

              Apr 03, 08 515 393 452 1727

              Apr 10, 08 480 422 494 1727

              Apr 17, 08 450 495 494 1727

              Apr 24, 08 463 540 490 1727
              latest gulf fert prices.

              Ammonia up a bit rest flat.

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              • cottonpicken
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2006
                • 6993

                #8
                I vote excatly opposite.

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                • SASKFARMER3
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2006
                  • 14485

                  #9
                  WHY NOT BUILD SAVINGS FOR POOR TIMES HOG GUYS ARE GOING DOWN EVERY DAY AND THEY WERE FLYING HIGH A YEAR AGO!

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                  • boarderbloke
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2007
                    • 1991

                    #10
                    Cotton, are you suggesting -Buy Now-, while your cash still buys something. buy 'tangibles', ie: equipment, bins, etc ??? because in a year or two, your cash won't buy you anything, or items won't be available, either not made or exported ??? if this is your line of thinking, i would be one to agree with you!

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