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  • Integrity_Farmer
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 428

    Watch the Donut not the hole

    Burl Ives once had a song "Watch the Donut not the Hole"

    Clearly people out protesting in Alberta are totally focused on the hole. Are you guys on the same planet bringing tractors and combines out to protest this?

    We have had similar legislation in Manitoba for years that requires farmers to have Workman's Compensation for their employees. There are no dire consequences happening here.

    In fact it is a benefit for farmers to have their employees covered by the WCB. Farmers could be sued for millions if someone was injured or maimed for life.

    A prominent Manitoba Manitoba MP was being helped when putting up some hay by a friend of his who worked at the Canadian Grain Commission. The friend fell off the hay wagon and broke his back ending up in a wheel chair. I'm not sure how that worked out but I know the MP felt terrible about it. Having comp for someone who gets hurt pitching in on a farm would be a huge relief if someone were seriously injured.

    Manitoba does not require family members to be covered by Workman s Compensation neither will Alberta.

    Farmers should have there family members covered by WCB both for their kids and casual employees even if they are just helping out. The process is simple and not costly. In Manitoba as in Alberta "THIS IS VOLUNTARY"

    I don't recall any opposition to this in Manitoba. I guess we needed a Wild Wild Rosy party to oppose everything.

    So for those Albertns and the Wild Rosy Party here is Burl Ives song.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzV-8TofHTw
  • Klause
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 3644

    #2
    In Sask it's optional. 800 a year. Why wouldn't you have it



    I think the problem is with oh and s rules which in Alberta are insane in all industries...

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    • seedsman
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2004
      • 119

      #3
      This bill is actually 3 different pieces of legislation. First is manditory WCB coverage. Many already have it so not a big deal for them. Some farms have other insurance that they consider better. Second part deals with OHS. Third part deals with things like overtime, max 6 days of consecutive work, paid vacations, limiting work by kids under 17, etc. So it might be ok for your kid to mow the grass in town, but not on the farm.

      Biggest concern everyone has is that the government wants to pass this legislation today or tomorrow, before they have consultations with farmers. They say "trust us, we'll write all the rules later". But it is going into effect in 4 weeks!

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      • hobbyfrmr
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2008
        • 3178

        #4
        Klause are you serious. $800/year per employee.

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        • blackpowder
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2010
          • 9340

          #5
          Somehow knew IF was from 'somewhere east'.
          Agreed there is a lot of naive howling out here. Proper insurance is only common sense. Hours, i think apply to hired children not your own.
          Klause is right, we are concerned about the silliness as it exists in other industries. At least he's experienced it firsthand.
          Of couse it has been discussed for far too long with no movement by former old boy network.
          Now in the matter of days we are TOLD its law. Told how its written. Told how wrong we are to debate. TOLD who knows best.
          Told it must be WCB. Not private. As, of course, the socialist fkrs know "pooled" premiums will be cheaper for all. Told they know best for common good and inclusivity for all. Despite any concerns, firm in their resolve to bring all workers "in". Doesnt their wording sound so familiar? Nothing like a decades spurned party new to power to bring on some hasty "at last, I'll show them now".
          Really, if some industries could be candid they would shitcan WCB.
          Makes you wonder govt auto ins next.
          Must give some on here nostalgic warm and fuzzys.
          Cant wait for some union SOB to show up around here. Ive been so ignorant for so long!

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