New trade agreement

[perfecho]

Again....most things are cheaper in the States...except health care, however I would rather be middle class here than there.
The quota system has some problems, now allowed to lease it, rent it etc. Quota is restrictive in getting started, however they are making some changes in that area.
The system can be fixed...instead of throwing to the wolves and allowing corporations to grind it down to the lowest level...in quality and price to producers.
Learn from their efforts and help bring others up to their level....although if you are spending your winters in Phoenix, you are doing OK....

[perfecho]

Again....most things are cheaper in the States...except health care, however I would rather be middle class here than there.
The quota system has some problems, now allowed to lease it, rent it etc. Quota is restrictive in getting started, however they are making some changes in that area.
The system can be fixed...instead of throwing to the wolves and allowing corporations to grind it down to the lowest level...in quality and price to producers.
Learn from their efforts and help bring others up to their level....although if you are spending your winters in Phoenix, you are doing OK....

[FarmRanger]

I appreciate that you think that the quota system can be fixed. Any tinkering that is attempted to "fix" it will only redistribute who gets to keep the capitalized future consumer subsidy that has been built up in the cost of quota.

The fact still remains though that it negatively affects the rest of us who get less for our exports because of Canada's protectionist attitude toward Supply management.
Where I spend my winters is irrelevant and certainly doesn't change the reality of anything I've commented here.

[perfecho]

Personally believe we should have protected more of our industry, before it was shipped overseas. The agreements do not seem to produce the "riches" we are promised....but they do make some companies quite wealthy. This agreement has been very secretive from the get go....why...if it's that good?

[FarmRanger]

Trade deals help you if your production is or has the potential to be exported and/or if you buy things which can be produced elsewhere. So they're pretty much good for everyone.

Mulcair's "This agreement has been very secretive" line is a bit disingenuous. He'd never negotiate a Union contract that wasn't behind closed doors. Why?, because that would have a greater chance of derailing the chances of a deal.
So when he claims it's being secretive, he dishonestly positions himself as being open, when he knows full well that like a labour contract, it will increase the chances of wrecking any deal if someone leaks details before its signed.
And wrecking the trade deal is what he wants anyway so its a win/win. Read the " [URL=http://tinyurl.com/p3ga42l]leap manifesto[/URL] " sometime if you want to read about a surefire plan to devastate the economy.

[perfecho]

The trade deal was very much secretive before the election...
The "leap" thing, I am still trying to wrap my head around....
But one thing to me is clear...actions taken should be to the benefit of many, not just a few...( and in dairy, I do believe it is beneficial to the consumer as well, it has been a stable supply, but again, lets fix the quota which is beneficial to a few...)

[TOM4CWB]

"The trade deal was very much secretive before the election... "

You need to find different sources for your information... perfecto...
TPP has been a major news maker for years.

"ATLANTA -- A day of decision lies ahead for international trade talks as 12 countries must determine Sunday whether to tune out nagging individual worries in order to create the world's largest trade zone.
Ministerial meetings in Atlanta have dragged on three days longer than scheduled and it appears this might be the make-or-break moment for concluding the Trans-Pacific Partnership here, and now, before the Canadian election.
A few final irritants have pushed negotiations into the take-it-or-leave-it phase, after which some ministers have a G20 meeting in Turkey including Japan's envoy who has made it clear he's gone after Sunday.
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Trade Minister Ed Fast speaks to reporters in Atlanta on Friday, Oct. 2, 2015, where he's negotiating the Trans-Pacific Partnership agreement. (THE CANADIAN PRESS / Alexander Panetta)
The final issues include an important feud over how to regulate next-generation pharmaceuticals. On that issue, Canada is essentially a neutral bystander. But it's a full-fledged disputant in another final-hour tussle, this one involving a more traditional industry -- dairy -- and how much of it to accept in imports.
Countries face the following dilemma: Accept the deal now, warts and all. Or wait, and risk that this decade-long project dies a slow, politically driven death.
It became clear relatively early Saturday that all-night negotiations had failed to conclude agreements on those few issues, delaying yet another day the planned celebratory news conference announcing the deal.
"Ministers have agreed to stay (until Sunday)," one source said, as hopes for a deal Saturday faded.
So what began as a two-day ministerial meeting in an Atlanta convention centre will have wound up lasting five days, amid widespread desire from deal proponents to get it done now before elections in Canada, the U.S., Peru and Japan."

http://www.ctvnews.ca/business/11th-hour-snags-spell-another-potential-delay-for-tpp-trade-deal-1.2593623

[perfecho]

Sorry Tom, should have clarified...secretive in what it contains...most elected officials have no idea what it contains, call that "democracy"...
From your post..
"If monster TPP deal is reached, Harper says Canada will release details"
Note: "Monster"