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  • errolanderson
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 3124

    China faking trade data?

    according to a Bloomberg story . . . .

    China's crackdown on fake export invoices used to disguise money flows is probably cutting the nations trade figures, revealing subdued global demand that will weigh on economic growth. Outbound shipments may have grown 7.1% in May less than half the previous month's reported 14.7%.

    The crackdown from China's foreign-exchange authorities on fake invoicing will bring the inflated growth down to the real trend, which is single digits. More broadly, China's economy is weakening, but is not collapsing . . . a comment from a Chinese economist.

    My comment, not Bloomberg . . . good grief! If these trade fiqures are faked, what is the impact on the commodity world? So-called China miracle growth may in-fact not be in a miracle.

    Personally believe global markets are entering a deflationary wave . . . this ridiculous news is just another push.
  • sumdumguy
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2007
    • 11969

    #2
    Do you think they are all fakes, western
    governments included?

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    • furrowtickler
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2004
      • 21856

      #3
      There is a shocker .....
      Did the big boys just figure that out ???

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      • SASKFARMER3
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2006
        • 14485

        #4
        No shit Sherlock!

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        • bucket
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 17022

          #5
          Good thing is a billion plus people still have to eat.

          And that government will keep its people fed because the alternative is not pretty.

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          • ado089
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2004
            • 1754

            #6
            Put it all together boys. Our strong
            grain prices are propped up by the
            delusion that China is going to ignite
            new life into the world economy. When
            people wise up to the fact that china is
            effed watch commodities tumble. Tumbling
            commodities also hurts developing
            economies amplifying the original
            problem. It's not purdy folks.

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            • rkaiser
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2004
              • 2282

              #7
              And thus - the advantage of dealing in real property and having to work, rather than playing with paper and sitting on our asses.

              Yes China needs to keep the masses happy with food.

              And government in the West just plays with money and grows it on trees if they need it. Which is more deceptive?

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              • ado089
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2004
                • 1754

                #8
                Real or not if demand drops and supply
                remains static prices will drop. There
                is a huge difference between our
                definition of being fed and a country
                like chinas definition of being fed.
                With 600 million miles class in China
                there is now alot of room for drift
                downward in consumption.

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                • errolanderson
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2012
                  • 3124

                  #9
                  ado089 . . . amen.

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                  • bucket
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2008
                    • 17022

                    #10
                    I think if the weather holds there will not be an increase in supply.

                    Some are starting to wake up to the facts. Others prefer to be ostriches.

                    No doubt the crops have a good start but after no rain in the corn belt last year, record yields are far from certain with only minimum rain so far.

                    I remember one fact I learnt in the states in my drunken stupor, each corn plant requires a barrel of rain to produce bumper crops.

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