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  • crusher
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2001
    • 1189

    Canola Inverse

    Hi Charlie/Errol,

    Need some help understanding the reasoning behind the canola futures situation. Comparing March to July, canola has a 3% inverse, Beans 1.5%, bean meal 2.3% and bean oil has a carry of 1.2%. Please explain to me the large canola inverse. There is no South America canola crop coming. Only thing I've heard is that line companies are afraid to do any business because they don't know if they can source supply. Current spread is $18/tonne, getting to look like a July/Nov spread.
  • charliep
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2000
    • 9002

    #2
    I would have similar thoughts to what you have indicated. With South American crop available in a couple of months, likely all meal and vegetable oil buyers are likely hanging back in the market. Everyone will be doing business in the nearby with further out months having less incentive to do anything. Not a lot of reason/desire for the speculative community to push the market higher either/remove the inverse.

    An opportunity to sell cash to capture the premium on the front end/good basis and replace with cheaper May/July futures or call options? Not recommending - just an alternative.

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    • crusher
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2001
      • 1189

      #3
      January delivery with a $30 July basis is available. If I keep canola in the bin for summer I don't think I will see $30 basis later on. I think the trade is about to receive another 10% of my production.

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      • charliep
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2000
        • 9002

        #4
        Just to add to the confusion, I will post this weeks COPA report. Board crush margin is narrower on the March versus May/July. CGC grain stats weekly not out but commercial stocks have been tight relative to the level of use.

        [URL="http://www.copaonline.net/documents/COPAWEEKLYJANUARY162013.pdf"]COPA[/URL]

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        • boarderbloke
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2007
          • 1991

          #5
          crusher, would that be to a crushing plant or to an elevator?( 30)
          best I'm seeing here is 25.10, that's to an elevator.SESK

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          • crusher
            Senior Member
            • Jun 2001
            • 1189

            #6
            So it looks like the margin is better by about $25 for July. Maybe the crushers will slowly start to bid it up after Cargill gets through their short term squeeze .

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            • boarderbloke
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2007
              • 1991

              #7
              plus sign doesn't show up in the post.
              I'll try again, here, we have plus $25.10 Feb Del over JULY futures, as you were comparing w/ plus $30. But was your quote to a crushing plant?

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              • errolanderson
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 3146

                #8
                crusher . . . July is simply a poor
                demand month for canola.

                Crushers sales are competed and plants
                are down for maintenance. That's why
                personally don't like July basis
                contracts.

                How this can change is; if weather in
                western Canada struggles in the spring.
                Then this inverse will start to go away.
                But if weather is normal . . . it could
                get even worse as new crop South
                American supplies will be flooding into
                the global market by May.

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                • ajl
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 3261

                  #9
                  It does appear that crush plant staff are
                  planning holidays in July and August. I
                  imagine that they will be a quiet as a
                  morge then.

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                  • crusher
                    Senior Member
                    • Jun 2001
                    • 1189

                    #10
                    Cargill Edmonton plus $30 over July, immediate delivery.

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