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  • just_wondering
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2006
    • 509

    #11
    As far as the subsidy issue I could agree they are bad.
    But with my farmer hat on I could only argue that they are mostly responsible for the highest grain prices in history. How can I say with a straight face that biofuels should not be subsidized when without this NEW use we as farmers would still be producing at less than the cost of production.
    This is like my holiday conversations with my socialist brother in law.
    He would say "war is bad therefore we should not have war anymore".
    - I would say " Bad people exist, and with out war they would rule the world"

    Same argument for biofuels subsidies distort the market place, we should not have subsidies.
    -Without subsidies Canada can not compete in a world where the playing field is not level. We need subsidies.

    IMHO biofuels are the least market distorting way of getting there.
    They have the biggest multiplier and the money flows towards the farm gate ,not away from it

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    • cottonpicken
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2006
      • 6993

      #12
      Two wrongs never make a right.No matter how you spin it.

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      • Fransisco
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2007
        • 3859

        #13
        Ihav a spellling chekker.
        It came with my PC.
        It plane lee marks four my revue
        Miss steaks aye can knot see.
        Eye ran this poem threw it.
        Your sure real glad two no.
        Its very polished in its weigh,
        My checker tolled me sew.
        A checker is a blessings.
        It freeze yew lodes of thyme.
        It helps me right awl stiles two reed,
        And aides me when aye rime.
        Each frays comes posed up on my screen
        Eye trussed too bee a joule.
        The chekcer pours o'er every word
        To cheque sum spalling rule.
        Bee fore a veiling chekers
        Hour spelling mite decline,
        And if we're laks oar have a laps,
        We wood bee maid too wine.
        Butt now bee cause my spelling
        Is checked with such grate flare,
        There are know faults with in my cite,
        Of nun eye am a wear.
        Now spelling does not phase me,
        It does knot bring a tier.
        My pay purrs awl due glad den
        With wrapped words fare as hear.
        Of witch won should be proud,
        And wee mussed dew the best wee can,
        Sew flaws are knot aloud.
        Sow ewe can sea why aye dew prays
        Such soft wear four pea seas,
        And why eye brake in two averse
        Buy righting want too please.

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        • Fransisco
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2007
          • 3859

          #14
          Sorry, but spelling and grammar matter.

          As my last post demonstrated when ignorance rules the day comprehension goes out the window.

          Yes, this is all meant to be informal and off-the-cuff and everybody makes mistakes. But egregiously misspelling a word every sentence not only makes it hard to read, it detracts from the validity of an idea or argument.

          People may think, oh, calm down, it's not that big a deal, we get the idea anyway.

          True.

          We do get the idea behind a poorly spelled post. But it's the difference between watching a movie on a TV with bad reception and broken rabbit ears versus on digital cable through a flat-screen.

          Furthermore, flippantly ignoring the basics shows a fundamental disrespect for the reader who has to unnecessarily strain just to untangle and comprehend whats being said.

          Simply put, it's rude.

          You may think looking marginally-literate is cute. It's not. It's like walking around in public with your fly down and your butt crack showing.

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          • just_wondering
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2006
            • 509

            #15
            what kind of libertarian tells someone else what they think is rude.
            Its like the definition of business casual pretty fluid and depends on the situation.

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            • jensend
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2002
              • 1532

              #16
              hey you forgot a question mark.

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              • Fransisco
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2007
                • 3859

                #17
                A liberitarian who wants people to be free to be the best they can be. Not the worst.

                There is a difference.

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                • Fransisco
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 3859

                  #18
                  This is probably a first on this forum. Someone getting heck for actually trying to raise the level of debate.

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                  • Fransisco
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 3859

                    #19
                    I find it interesting that I pointed out two things that bother me about Jen; the inability to <b>differentiate between 'slavery' and 'voluntary' employment</b> and the obvious laziness in the grammar department.

                    Both of which are true. The first one <b>offensively so</b>, the second one is more annoying than anything.

                    Yet pointing out that someone can't be bothered to pull up their pants seems to bother you more, just_wondering, than someone minimizing the horror of slavery.

                    Like I said, isn't that interesting.

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                    • cottonpicken
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2006
                      • 6993

                      #20
                      How about simple democracy then.

                      Your the only one that is so damn bothered by spelling.Give it up captain annoying.

                      It's almost as bad as tom's bible thumpin.

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