CWB Confirms Farmers Will Lose Millions on Barley

[chaffmeister]

Agstar - did you even read my last post?

I'm not talking about a little bump in the road here. I'm talking about the way the CWB wants to operate is completely and totally flawed. Even if the market had rallied after the CWB's court win (which anyone with any market savvy knows it wouldn't have) this CWB would not have been able to execute anyway (they're proving right now).


Add to the CWB's three D's of management (deny, deflect, and defend), the three I's of management (impotence, insolence, ideology)

[ProFarmer]

I hope Agstarr has to deliver his malt to cover the shortfall of the CWB. You know the CBW is just like the the bully on the playground he takes the ball but does not know what to do with it. The CWB wants every thing but does a poor job, Thinks he is so popular, but really is just a dumb ass.

[dolin]

more power doesnt mean more money for our wheat,our leaders told us every good things we will get.before we get pay in 2 weeks.now we get final pay 14 months later

[dolin]

Agastar, if Barley would've went limit up the day after the ruling, then yes mabye the market knows something about the Board that we don't. But it didin't go up, it went limit down 2 days straight based on the fact the Board was getting conrol again.

Are you telling me that you are that blind to lose a pile of money to the Board, by them now gaining control again?? And you chalk it up to that it was just 2 bad days in the market??

Wow you supporters are blind!!

[Fransisco]

And lets not forget the cash price either. Analysts everywhere said it was -historic- they had never seen that large a drop in cash before, ever.

[kamichel]

Big bad CWB cannot control those big bad grain companies.

[winwin]

To agstar etc price levels are not important.Equity and order are what matters.
You have to have power and control to achieve these higher goals.And he should be the one exercising all that power over his neighbors.
'you cant make an omelet without breaking eggs'is his(and Mussolinni's) philsophy.
You farmers are simply the eggs in his master recipe.
Shut up about prices.Your not worthy.

[tower]

Agstar I am wondering what your kind of cryptic comments about the wheat growers above were about.

I thought some here might be interested in the following item.

http://www.wce.ca/WebContent.aspx?Web_Content_Id=528

[TOM4CWB]

Tower,

I am asking you to explain why "designated area" grain growers should provide subsidies of cheap feed grains... for supply managed farmers and livestock producers. Can you explain this logic?

The CWB managers have a 101 ways, IF THEY WERE REQUIRED to MAXIMISE "Designated area" wheat and barley growers returns... to acheive this objective.

1. Provide a daily cash price bid system that establishes a feed base price that pulls up the domestic feed markets.

2. Establish a bid system that reduces grain handling costs through competition... and direct these premiums to the growers who negotiate the added value instead of the CWB pool accounts. This would automatically drive costs on CWB handled grain... out of our grain handling system... and increase prices to the farm gate within the "Designated Area".

It is hard to believe CWB managers so foolish they don't understand these simple principals... so please explain the logic here Tower! Why do they consistantly push domestic "Designated Area" grain prices lower... and minimising our "farm gate" pricing whenever the opportunity presents itself?

It is like our CWB Managers are proud of these jaw dropping teeth shattering policies that destroy our farm gate returns!

[tower]

tom4cwb I'll give it a try if you like but it would be a good idea to get a second opinion.

If the board does conciously or subconciously enforce grain farm subsidization of the feed industry I'd have to assume that there would be two main causes of it

; the first is that we as grain farmers elect cattlemen to represent us on the board and can't see the bias put into the system in that way.

; the second would be that sucessive federal conservative and liberal governments have been enamored of the dollars put into the economy through having a large cattle and hog and poultry industry, and so have instructed the board through their appointees to give support to that sector. I don't doubt that the respective feeder associations have succeeded in putting ample lobby pressure on the governments to do this.

At the same time grain growers are divided against each other because we are all fed up with the low prices. As well we will go out and get higher yielding varieties, throw the fertilizer and chemicals to the field in an effort to out produce, well, ourselves basically. I think we should let governments and agribusiness multinationals know that we understand that it's societies bias against the primary producer more than anything else that's hurting the grain growers.