When is roundup ready canola off patent

[Oliver88]

I would like to see the breakdown in the difference in net income between RR1 and RR2 soybeans.
It sounds interesting but would like to see breakdown.

Yield difference = ?
Any shorter season RR1 varieties?
Difference in required seed treatment/insecticides?

[tweety]

If you don't spray late for cosmetic reasons, or need to spray later as RR2 is a blocker, not much.

[oneoff]

"I think its a reference to the availabilty of cheaper off patent RR1 seed versus RR2 at extra cost and a marginal increase in yield for that extra cost. Telling us to exercise our options.

Even if there is a yield reduction, growing less bushels for more money at a cheaper cost would be better than growing more bushels for less money at a greater cost. "


Couldn't have said it better....but maybe it was said just as clearly to anyone wishing to consider and comprehend what was originally said.

I doubt if but a handful gave this concept a passing thought. Even less than a handful would have taken the time to read the comments in the first place; and 90% plus dismissed it "out of hand".

Practically the only response is "give me the facts; connect all the dots and give me an ironclad guarantee.

OK as I see it; the seed salesman would claim a 15% potential yield advantage if you use the newest, priciest; fully loaded RR2 soybean variety at a cost of $120.00 per acre

OR

for probably less than 40.00 per acre you could use your own off-patent soybeans and still purchase that same liquid and granular innoculant package; spray the bejeezus out of the crop with fully functional generic glyphosate and if you plant them at the right time; get enough heat units; get timely rains in August and don't leave half the crop uncut and have harvest proceed in a timely manner you might wish the whole farm was planted to soybeans and intend to do same year after year. Just like the shiny new RR2 variety that are being hyped..

Not much else has changed from a few short years ago; when that same RR1 variety that was the darling of the trade. Use crop rotations/stewardship keep "Asian rust" , pests etc at minimal levels for all future legume and soybean crops.

YOU WILL NOTICE THAT THAT SEED SALESMAN WILL HARDLY COMMENT ABOUT THE OFF PATENT VARIETIES....and I would guess because there are a lot more bucks in the equation for the "industry" which feels they slipped out in not somehow taking that last RR1 variety out of circulation. Expect that again next time in plus or minus 17 years it won't happen with RR2 varieties; but who thinks long term when YOU won't be around (and it matters little since it is evident that even today there are few who even give a shit about mandatory patent periods that have expired/are expiring as this is big written). This issue should be being dealt with NOW)


So you should know what most farmers will do, and why there will be disasters and ongoing problems that parallel the experience with crops such as canola.

And why practically any farmer would take any dollar that was sugar coated or not; but would not aspire to truly sailing their own ship or demanding to run their operation on its own merits. Its just hypocritical to effectively run on professional panhandling and deep down abhor anyone else who begs for a nickel in order to survive.

Which brings us back to "whats his point" and why is he so uptight.

A fitting way to close a typical agriville thread???????

And all done without the benefit of a calculator or pencil.

[tweety]

Pretty much what i said in one little paragraph in regards to soybeans.

But what about canola?

[TOM4CWB]

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[oneoff]

Every place you see soybeans.....just replace with word canola....or NOT

Maybe its because soybean is more pertinent to USA farmers and canola was developed by Downey et al in little Sask.. But were're such a small insignificant world player that something as puny as canola isn't even close to being world scale...or NOT

[oneoff]

Well just maybe the creation of canola from ancient ****seed seed stock should have at least warranted some form of GNU licence.

Talk about not knowing what someone is trying to say.

Well everyone does want the story in as few words as possible.

over and out

[tweety]

It does. Canola is in no way patented or restricted. You can create anything you want with it.

You just can't copy Calgene's method of Agrobacterium modification of genes.

If you want to come up with a new chemical and new tolerance to it - make it happen, nothing is stopping you.