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    #21
    Why dont the buyers take the time to run the options market hedge themselves and offer act of god clauses

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      #22
      cotton, because they don't have to , we are stupid enough to sign them as they are . we haven't priced a lot but I bet a lot of farmers have . they have us by the short ones anymore because there is no competition . you don't sign and assume all the risk . you don't haul , it's just that simple , and even if you do sign , if it doesn't work out for them or railroads , you still don't haul .

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        #23
        I think at least a few people have caught on and figured it out.


        But by and large that assessment is certainly not true....There are most who HAVE to do what they are doing to the disadvantage of themselves and certainly every other last producer.

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          #24
          I have the feeling that those that think the free markets work also believe in ponzi schemes.

          The banking system that crashed the market and accelerated quantative easing, whatever that means, it a direct result of free markets.

          They should call it quantative expropriation because the government has legally stole the next generations future.

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            #25
            Yes, free markets with government bailing out auto manufacturers, banks and manufacturers of choice.
            It is amazing how skewed defending the "free markets" has become....and yet any form of socialism is berated...
            Beginning to believe free enterprise and socialism are the same thing.... one is for corps and one is for the masses....

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              #26
              Assiniboa capital was just a shadow for some political payback and now that's done so they will close up the loophole.

              That's not a free market, that is manipulating the market.

              Saskatchewan and federal governments and the people there okayed the deal. You have to think they were in on it.

              Funny how potash Corp was a strategic resource but our land isn't.

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                #27
                May have to argue that bucket.

                Dont believe any of us have seen the free market

                Qe is a symptom of a disease that had to happen to prolong the life if the system

                Ten years ago there where guys saying eventually the debt had to be monetized but mainstream laughed. The only thing they had. In common was the horror of it
                Now here we are

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                  #28
                  Agree that free market is, not unlike democracy, as much an ideal as a goal we ever reach.
                  Neither is perfect but both are better than alternatives.
                  Part that irks is suggestion that farmers are exploited more so than other members of society.

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                    #29
                    Some here talk of small crops = higher prices = better profit. So let me guess, you cut back on your fert, seed and chem ahead of time? sea,s like some really dumb comments

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                      #30
                      The foundation of some republics where in design a frame work so the public wouldnt cross out of bounds and screw it all up.

                      Fascism/corporatism and socialism now exist in the same time and place guess we get to see how it plays out hopefully not war but everthing is pointing in that direction. If it comes to that the boys are staying home and I'm going figure they will need more middle aged guys and young farmers can stay home like last time lol

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