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  • farming101
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 3954

    Too much wheat

    The problems that have dragged on for the past two years or so are the result of producing too much wheat and maybe in the case of the 2013 crop too much of everything. The end.
  • bucket
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2008
    • 17027

    #2
    It's been said Canada's production in the whole scheme of things makes no difference world wide.

    This is just a example of a country not planning for its full potential.

    The global market would have gobbled up Canada's production had we been able to get it to port position.

    Thinking otherwise justifies never getting beyond a 35 mmt export target.

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    • Braveheart
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2001
      • 3257

      #3
      Farming101, you're 100% correct.

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      • tweety
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2014
        • 3059

        #4
        So lets us as farmers use 95% of checkoff money and resources trying to figure out how to grow more.

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        • bucket
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2008
          • 17027

          #5
          Sure. Whatever happened in 1997 was nothing to learn from.

          So when councils and commissions are setting higher targets for the future, you guys are going to say it's too much production as opposed to not enough transportation capacity?

          Geezus! !!!!!!

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          • lakenheath
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2003
            • 541

            #6
            Get bigger, use more fertilizer and fungicides when margins start to squeeze.....simple economies of scale.....

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            • bucket
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2008
              • 17027

              #7
              For sure - over production. Peas will be sold out by June as will red lentils.

              Might not be out of canola but it will be tight by June 2016.

              Over production. Where do you guys come up with this?

              It's a lack of transportation.

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              • farming101
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 3954

                #8
                The infrastructure is there but costly. TBay and the eastern ports. When the large crop was obvious there was no plan or will to bring every port and facility on line to get the grain to an exportable position. Bring the ships to the east coast. That is what it would have taken to get the grain out with what there was to work with. And at the end of the day it was impossible to move it all as farmers would have liked. The will and planning was not there.

                For sure the ball was dropped. How to improve the movement of grain out of the country westward has not been successfully dealt with ever. Now, when it is needed more than ever the failure to plan is obvious. Worse yet is the fact that total use of western rail transportation is at an all time high.

                World wheat carryout is growing. Western Canada cannot successfully market at good prices into that reality.

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                • Braveheart
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2001
                  • 3257

                  #9
                  Make sure those provincial commissions focus on the overly competitive plant breeding scene, rather than promotion of prairie grains and market development. That will keep supplies nice and burdensome.

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                  • foragefarmer
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2014
                    • 3495

                    #10
                    Braveheart

                    Just a question, if breeding includes more disease resistance is this a bad thing?
                    As for market development does it not fall under the federal government? Should they not be promoting Canadian cereals and oil seeds on trade missions. CIGI does a lot of promoting of Canadian grains to other counties and they are funded by the Fed's.

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