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    #31
    Overland flooding comes from too much rain from the sky, and not being able to flow to the lakes/rivers fast enough...


    You moved into a pretty good area... but still last two years were more than challenging. In the past it was too dry down there. As every other area in the Prairies things change.


    Good luck! But go through a season before asking for rain... just sayin'

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      #32
      It wasn't awful wet down there this year Klause - about average I'm told. Definitely would have grown more grass in the fall if they'd had more moisture. In general it will be more prone to dry than wet and being rolling country will be able to disperse water quicker if we do get a deluge.
      I don't claim to know it all but as I said I did my homework as best I could before buying.

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        #33
        Grass you know nothing about rain or drought. Rain destroys land for years drought one good rain and it's over. We need 4 to 6 years bellow moisture to get things strait expend around.
        We want droughts.

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          #34
          Grassfarmer, I've taken holistic management. We use the principles to manage our grazing/forage land, as well as using the holistic goal setting principles. I agree that management style can indeed mitigate too much water or drought.

          Where you're going, you will experience both, I know, I'm only 20 minutes away. But, you will find holistic management in your new area will get you to your land goals quickly.

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            #35
            You can take whatever course you want. Until someone comes up with a way of profiting from alkili and catails I don't think excess moisture will ever be a good thing or not do damage.

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              #36
              Sask govt looking at updated drainage policy.
              Lots of unapproved work has gone on.
              Would seem to be a monumental task to inspect and assess it all as well as stirring up animosity among neighbours.
              Looking for middle of the road approach.

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                #37
                I want to know more about these management practices that alleviate 44 inches of rain in a year, but only so ling as it is a holistic approach.

                I would love to know about the holistic approach, in regards to a ten year stretch of WELL above long term normal precipitation levels, which fills lakes with no prior outlets, which then overflow and erode land into unrecognizable fields.

                How about a holistic approach to ruts? I would love to know how one approaches rut avoidance and repair, with a holistic ideal.

                Finally, how does one holistically approach drowning crops? What should I have been doing holistically of course, to prevent my crops from dying while the rains fell? What about my pasture and grass? Holistically speaking, how did I go so wrong???

                Maybe I should move to another area, in a holistic fashion? Leave behind one of THE most productive historically farming areas in western Canada.

                Provided I leave holistically, all should be well.

                Gotta go out and feed my sheep. Holistically of course...

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                  #38
                  Thank you Braveheart for a sensible post.
                  Freewheat although you are mocking HM I really suggest you take a course - you are young enough and prepared to think outside the box enough that it would really benefit you. As Braveheart said you can influence and mitigate the effects of too much or too little water on your land if you have the tools (knowledge).

                  SF3 maybe you should heed the saying "better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove any doubt"

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                    #39
                    Grass like I said before you know shit all. Brave I agree with free I'm not going to mock your course but 30 to 40 inches of rain every year for years created the problem. When creeks run like mountain streams all summer and never quit . Some thing is feeding them . It's called rain we have no mountains for run off.
                    Grass I'm sure Manitobans will like you!

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                      #40
                      I am not mocking HM. I have been an HM manager since I started farming, I have read deeply about it, and need no course. I did HM before the government subsidized the courses.

                      The point of my post, is that a guy who is generally starving for moisture, has little idea about fighting moisture, and losing money to moisture. For you, rain grows grass, and you have the choice to manage that to your benefit.

                      For us, rain DROWNS grass this last while. When this happens, no amount of HM is ever going to offset it.

                      THAT is my point. I do HM management in a lot of ways. But it does not stop flooding, erosion, or rainfall from hell.

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