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    The turkey pm got home from France for that solidarity march then did a 180 and accused the French people and Mossad for carring out the attacks to hurt Islam.

    I think this is a pretty big deal turkey is an important country and member of NATO so it may have justed sided with the east,and for a guy like that to say that is a frickin bomb shell.

    #2
    surprised. in the hadith a supplement to the koran if you will. mulsims are led by imams to believe it is ok to lie cheat or steal to the infidel. but not to fellow muslims. i dont know if radicals count.

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      #3
      its a really big deal, Cott.

      Erdogan cannot be trusted.. And worse, when Obama was elected President, the first visit he made was to Turkey for a kissing match with Erdogan. To Turkey.

      Very serious for the safely of the West when a member of NATO is best friends with Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood. Pars

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        #4
        Fricken "religions". Animal/tribal instincts trump human/spiritual characteristics. It will never change, even on this ever shrinking planet. Civilization, a kind of failed social experiment.

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          #5
          Tribes that drag behind life as we live it are very dangerous. After all, they have nothing to lose. #FillingTentsOnTheSand Pars

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            #6
            It's not religion - it's politics! Turkey has a substantial Muslim population and Erdogan is trying to walk a tightrope. That's why they've had to stay out of the war with ISIS. Kind of like how Putin has to manipulate Russia, just different players. And the USA - black vs white. 17 people mindlessly executed in France and the Western world mourns. But at the same moment Boko Haram kills 2000 in an African town and hardly a peep. Could it be white vs black values? I truly hope not or we haven't progressed very far in 200 years. WE can't solve the worlds woes: but we sure could use some visionary leadership unlike anything seen before.

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              #7
              Religion can be as corrupt as politics. Had quite a bit of control at one time.

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                #8
                Imagine if the eu had let them join,they keep applying but a millions of Turks with passports probably scared a few people.

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                  #9
                  bang on rockpile... and media is a big part in it to direct attention. movies to direct the minds of watchers away from the truth.

                  shit cotton, when I first read you post I thought you might be referring to our own turkey pm. other than the fact that he will only ever complicity follow the usa lead.

                  not an ounce of religion in this paris movie. je suis ci a lie

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                    #10
                    Turkey should be removed from NATO.

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                      #11
                      Probably a waste of time thinking about this stuff. If turkey was kicked out of NATO then we would lose the Black Sea which a real big deal. Then you have a massive arc of sco countrol with anything Shia. Germany is not exactly 100%with us. The Sunni would soon be forced to turn on us and then we would be in big trouble. North America,uk,japan,Australia,Israel,against the rest of the world.

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                        #12
                        Cotton , it's going to happen regardless IMO

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                          #13
                          on the bright side
                          heard on radio that the world is in the most peaceful time in
                          the last 150 years.

                          fewest wars, least killed.

                          in the troubles we still endure now.
                          every side shares some blame.

                          parts of Africa and the middle east
                          still living in the dark ages.
                          tribes , religion , ignorance

                          Russia
                          inferiority complex patriotic organized crime, for a govt.

                          the capitalist west and Europe finally decide to quit killing each other at least for now.

                          but not entirely innocent , because
                          ( no matter what North American media tells us ) they have been and still are, using their power to exploit others .

                          and manufacture and sell the bulk of the worlds weapons.
                          every one is guilty of that.

                          not much talk about the kinds
                          WMDs found in Iraq . because all they found came originally from the US.
                          ( Saran gas)

                          China , India, etc. are safe . they have so many people so nobody is gonna screw with them, war with them would be senseless. ( again they will sell a
                          gun to anyone)

                          they just want to manufacture sell
                          and get ahead. at least for now.


                          we just need. education and humanity instead of religion,
                          and end exploitation and stop selling weapons.

                          maybe in 50 years we will be more peaceful yet

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