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  • Tucker
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 309

    #31
    I agree Freewheat. Three quarters of land, three land-owners across the fence and kitty-corner. Canola. One deep-tilled in fall, one burned everything black two weeks before seeding to 'warm things up'. I didn't even harrow after combining the fall before on mine. We all seeded the same day, we all swathed the same day. Looked like there wasn't more than a bushel per acre difference in yield. That 'warm-up' thing I think is bullshit.

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    • freewheat
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2007
      • 2981

      #32
      Yeah I forgot to mention. I don't even harrow anymore either. Aesthetically pleasing to the eye? Yes! Dollars and sense monetary return? Debatable IMO.

      Unless one makes a real mess at combining, and needs to smash up some lumps or poorly spread and chopped straw, (I have my fair share this year!!!),heavy harrows are an expensive implement, that to me is un-necessary to increase ones bottom line.

      This study backs me up...

      http://www.reducedtillage.ca/article41.aspx

      With no yield benefit, yet with higher costs, we can see what the net return will be. Negative. Perty fields for sure, nice straight stripes in the fields, but at least in that study, no yield benefit. I found it interesting at least...

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      • cottonpicken
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2006
        • 6993

        #33
        Coming from the shitest farmer i see the best farmers doing it so check your premise

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        • greybeard
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2004
          • 427

          #34
          The fields that grew the best crops here are untouched or harrowed.
          The shit poor crops are mostly tilled.
          Most of that was swamp when homesteaded.
          The water table is at the surface.

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          • Daylate
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2009
            • 588

            #35
            Maybe we should be just doing a headland with a $3000 disc, light it up and sit in the tractor with a beer and do some agrivilling and watch it burn.

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            • Daylate
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 588

              #36
              Oops. Forgot about the hernia creating ruts out in my fields. 4 every 35 ft. Bang bang bang bang,

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              • Daylate
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2009
                • 588

                #37
                We got our own juice rig this year. So were spikin in hydrous hydrous hydrous. Just finished all our boggy packed rutted canola stubble tonight. Wanted to hit our worst 1/3 of our cereal stubble. But not sure if that's an option with the forecast. Putting on fert makes me feel like I'm doing something meaningful anyway

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                • furrowtickler
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 21880

                  #38
                  freewheat - you get done?

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                  • freewheat
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 2981

                    #39
                    Furrow. 50ish acres barley left. And more snow overnight! I am admitting defeat. Its over.

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                    • furrowtickler
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 21880

                      #40
                      Greybeard - interesting , it was the exact opposite here. We were done seeding wheat before most guys started - they were waiting for the soils to warm up.
                      There was a huge diff in canola emergence and early season vigour here, some canola just sat and did nothing for 2 weeks after emergence in heavy stubble.
                      In this area too much H2O was not as much the issue it was cold temps. The heavier rains that cause delays came right at the end of May and early June
                      Who knows about next year - every spring if different.

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