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  • malleefarmer
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2005
    • 5424

    Wheat oversold?

    How much more daylight between current prices and bottom?

    Yes there is a lot of wheat corn and beans in the world but surely its all factored in by now?

    Oil lower dow lower, metals mostly lower is everything pointing to lower ag commodities

    Had a friend who sold wheat futures when they were at 610 which wasn't a huge number everyone said he was mad hes sitting pretty
  • Hopperbin
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2007
    • 6562

    #2
    In canada pig feeding wheatnis worth more than human. Figure that one out. Asking wrong country.

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    • malleefarmer
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2005
      • 5424

      #3
      thinking things could be depressed for 2 years not so bullish aa I was 4 months ago

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      • Braveheart
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2001
        • 3257

        #4
        Wheat contracts may be getting oversold, but will likely move lower yet. I'm bearish wheat.

        Mallefarmer, not sure about 2 years, but I think we're in for at least a year of depressed wheat prices.

        We took some protection (Dec MGE) in late April but wish we had done more of course.

        Basis deals have come along but been filled quickly.

        Once we're actually long physical wheat and know quantity and quality I guess we'll just play the old reward rallies with sales strategy.

        Right now it's a challenge trying to keep our cost per bushel down.

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        • hobbyfrmr
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2008
          • 3177

          #5
          Braveheart,

          You may want to look up that young Schultz farmer in Alberta. If memory serves me, the Globe and Mail article claimed he grows wheat for about $2.50 per bushel. That is a low cost. He is a good farmer.

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          • TOM4CWB
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2000
            • 16511

            #6
            Hobby

            On $3k land and average yields... In Alberta... Someone is pulling someone's leg. No cost for Capital?

            Pulse stubble with no Fert? Both?

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            • Braveheart
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2001
              • 3257

              #7
              Shultz eh? Verrry interesting. But is he crazy?

              We have 3k/acre land. At today's cash price we needed just over 90 bu/acre to breakeven when we did our budgets back in Feb. Now in season, we have cut out fungicide at herbicide time, and lowered some fertilizer rates.

              Early yield guess on the wheat is mid 80.

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              • bgmb
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2007
                • 1645

                #8
                I believe he could easily grow wheat for $250/ac including opportunity cost of land rent. If he gets 100bu/ac i guess that math makes sense.

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                • Braveheart
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2001
                  • 3257

                  #9
                  Not arguing the point. Everyone's situation is different.

                  I do agree with mallee. Wheat is in a downtrend. Reports of poor US yields hasn't made a difference.

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                  • errolanderson
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 3123

                    #10
                    mallee . . . 'dead cat' bounce at best.

                    European cash wheat prices are very weak

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