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[bucket]

What's worse is that the reduction in hours has been more of an emmission reduction than all the engineering.

Wish someone would think about that fact.

[sumdumguy]

Grass, surely you know that people "manipulate" data for their own benefit. Grow up! If you believe all the fear mongers who get rich off your fear, good luck. Fear not and don't let yourself get duped by frauds.

[Braveheart]

Emissions control? Carbon reduction? The climate change that may be caused by the human pop is a joke compared to what one volcanic eruption can do in a few hours. Emissions restrictions are just another attack by the anti-corporate, anti-globalization crowd.

[foragefarmer]

Braveheart: So your saying that humans should just continue on the path their on as it really doesn't matter as a volcano is going to do it all anyways?

[Braveheart]

For me it comes down to which humans. Forcing new tractor and truck engines on North American ag producers whilst China and India pours pollutants into the atmosphere just increases our costs and will do nothing in the end to reduce carbon. What's more, carbon has been banked for a couple of decades now with no till on the prairies, yet no recognition of that is ever mentioned.

Back to my original comment. One volcano, like the Iceland event, would pour so much carbon into the atmosphere, NOTHING we could do in generations would come close to equalling it. So to lay the blame at the feet solely at industrialized society is misplaced.

[Tucker]

I really like a quote I heard years ago during one of Tim Ball's talks: "I don't know which is more arrogant, mankind thinking they caused the problem or mankind thinking they can change it"

[dmlfarmer]

Braveheart:
Where did you get your information that one volcano impacts climate more than humans do What Scientific studies support your claim? Studies I have read found: "Volcanoes emit around 0.3 billion tonnes of CO2 per year. This is about 1% of human CO2 emissions which is around 29 billion tonnes per year."

[Braveheart]

Google a writer named Ian Pilmer. I think he is a contributor to ABC News.

[foragefarmer]

Tucker Tim Ball is nothing more than a big grand stander funded by EXXON and other oil companies. Not hard to see who's side he's on.


Black powder : I don't mind doing my part or paying for it,as I feel we all have a responsiblty to do so. I try my very best to ensure I take care of my farm in the most husbandry manner so there is something left for the future. This business of pointing fingers at everybody else is getting very tiresome. I am not rich nor a hypoctite and I am not as blind as other posters on here that simply deny nothing needs to change and blaming everybody else.So don't label me for pointing out the facts

[dmlfarmer]

Blaveheart: Ian Plimer has made the volcano claim a number of times but has never provided any scientific data to back up his claim. Even when questioned in debate on this claim he will not provide any data to support his volcano claim.
It has been debunked by many scientists and scientific organizations including the United States Geological Survey, NASA, the University in Adelaide.
Just because Plimer wrote this statement does not make it true.