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[grassfarmer]

All the indications are that human activity is helping to increase global temperatures. So if we accept that higher global temperature averages might be causing an increase in extreme weather events wouldn't it be prudent to do something to mitigate the contribution human activity is making to rising global temperatures?
We owe it to future generations to do the right thing, not the easy thing.

[blackpowder]

You see how much more reasonable you sound when you tone it down a little. People start listening again. I can agree with some of your last now grass. Just need to stop short of any wealth redistribution schemes.

[bluefargo]

I hadn't thought about climate change when I started this thread. I personally have no doubt that the billions of people on this planet are causing big problems in our atmosphere. We are using up way too much of our finite resources. The evidence is overwhelming.
Having said that I don't believe every flood; every tornado ; every weather event can be blamed on climate change.
What interests me is the wet cycle we are currently in. A huge area of the prairies has more water than anybody has ever seen. Not only in the flooded areas but elsewhere as well.

[furrowtickler]

I agree blue, but also sunspot activity gets zero regard from the climate change crowd and it has far more reaching affects than any human activity

[seabass]

We are not gonna change what the weather wants to do. Taxing us for someone elses benefit ain't gonna fix it. Weathers been changing forever. Warmest May right here my ass. In 2 years or next year it could be drier thana popcorn fart and its still our fault. Live with it deal with it and move on.

[foragefarmer]

The world population is 7.250 billion. If anybody on here can honestly say that a popuation of this size will not have some effect on the climate your only fooling youself. There has to be measures taken to reduce carbon emissions. Countries in the G8 along with China and India have to initiate the the process otherwise our greatgrand children are doom. Just because we're farmers don't think for one moment that this is also our responisblity as well

[grassfarmer]

"Warmest May right here my ass"
Seabass, that's the kind of comment that makes the anti-climate change side look ridiculous. The comment was that the global temperature average in May was the record hottest.
Being cold or wet in one part of Canada one day or one month doesn't disprove global climate change - its part of the range of extremes that you are more likely to get if their theories prove correct.

[seabass]

IF IF IF Grassy do u realize us as farmers pay for emission controls on our machines that don't work and we keep paying for them til we trade them off for new machines with better emission controls that don't work. Then some of us pay to take the emission controls off so we don't have to keep paying to fix them and we as farmers keep the economy rolling while the guy who thot this shit up just laughs his ass off.

[blackpowder]

All the while Chinese and Indian made diesels (after they take over North American joint venture plants) belch black smoke. We are leading the way in paying for change while no one else is following. Or paying for development.
We can't spill a molecule of our 'dirty oil' while they let it slop anywhere. People here have been so rich for so long we're all big, fat, blind hypocrites.
Just tired of being the only one paying. The only one being pointed at. Go ahead and do your part grass green forage just don't pay for it all all the time. Or kill the golden goose!

[farmaholic]

I realize this is kind of off the original topic but.... what drives me nuts is having excessive emission controls installed on machinery that sits in a machine shed for 10 months of the year