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Charlie, have we seen the top of canola prices?

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  • monte
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2000
    • 209

    Charlie, have we seen the top of canola prices?

    Just wondering what you are reading and thinking?

    Seems like the market has decided oilseeds have seen the highs with the past few sessions trending downwards.

    Thanks
  • SASKFARMER3
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2006
    • 14485

    #2
    No! It's a shit show right to the last field. So if any
    one thinks the USA crop is growing or the
    Canadian is getting bigger keep smoking The
    cheap stuff. Also it's a long time till brazil or
    Argentina harvests.

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    • charliep
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2000
      • 9002

      #3
      I suspect we have put in our short term highs. The
      market I suspect has built in the shortfalls in
      production with only caveat you need to follow China
      to determine whether they stay in the market or start
      to back down. Soybean supplies remain tight and the
      question is whether the job of rationing is happening.

      Watch all the factors in the market. Basis levels.
      Changes in volume and open interest. Charts.
      Delivery and export activity. The market is going to
      stay interesting and always be right at the end of day.

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      • bucket
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2008
        • 17035

        #4
        China is a master of market manipulation. Talk the market down to buy at lower prices.

        I suspect they are getting close to a major purchase.

        Russia did it in the 70s and I think china has pulled it off a couple of times since. The world is short grains and oilseeds. Too bad every Tom Dick and harry buys into the nonsense that china is in a recession.

        Short crops in Russia ukraine brazil and the USA and where do the buyers go for their supplies????

        Just asking but WTF is wrong with some people.

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        • monte
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2000
          • 209

          #5
          Thanks guys.

          We are still waiting to sell some crop and hope you are right.

          I agree China is a player in the market, read yesterday they were selling some soybean reserves and doing a grain deal with Ukraine.

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          • charliep
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2000
            • 9002

            #6
            bucket

            Check your facts. China has been in this market all
            the way up. Will they keep buying? Maybe. The
            market inverse on soybeans needs to be noticed.
            There is a reason.

            Only other comment is to use all the tools. Even if
            you bullish the future, I would be following basis
            levels and use them as a marketing signal. Lots of
            tools in the tool box to participate in rallies.

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            • errolanderson
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 3146

              #7
              The reason canola tanked again today has
              nothing to do with SF3s sh.. show or
              China manipulating the market. China's
              economy is suckin air right now, they
              are pulling from their reserves and
              Malaysian palm oil was hammered
              overnight.

              This sell-off is originating from Asia.
              Saskatchewan has nothing to do with
              influencing this market direction . . .
              sorry to say SF3.

              The funds are starting to panio plain 'n
              simple. Just take a look at crude oil


              And the market doesn't have as secret
              agenda as some on agriville seem to
              think.

              guys . . . there's a frickin global
              financial disaster in-progress. If you
              think canola is immune from it, think
              again.

              Errol

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              • furrowtickler
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2004
                • 22096

                #8
                errol, I am seeing the same thing now. Thinking of dumping everything - kinda. Way too much talk of $20 beans and $17 canola last week. When that shit happens and the price will go to the moon??? At harvest?? Not a good sign IMO

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                • hedgehog
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2009
                  • 619

                  #9
                  recession or not, china has to eat, or there will be big trouble.
                  they have cash, will purchase.

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                  • ajl
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2008
                    • 3261

                    #10
                    Government mismanagement of the economy
                    has screwed every nation on earth except
                    somehow the Chinese are immune to that.
                    China is in trouble too and that will
                    result in their diets reverting back to
                    what it was a few years back lessening
                    demand somewhat.

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