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    House Of Lords

    This is one crazy ass story which is hard to
    believe,and i wouldn't bother with it but it was
    brought up in the british parliament.

    Unofficial Transcript of the speech by Lord James of
    Blackheath, in the Lords Chamber of the House of
    Lords, London, on 16 February 2012







    I’m going to start with my conclusions, but I’m not
    going to sit down when I’ve made them. Because I’m
    then going to give you the evidence to support them
    and hopefully present to you the reasons why I want
    support for an official inquiry into the mischief I want
    to unfold to you this afternoon.





    My lords, I have been engaged in pursuit of this issue
    for nearly 2 years now, and I’m no further through to
    getting to the truth.





    I think there are three possible conclusions that may
    come from it. I think there may have been a massive
    piece of money laundering committed by a major
    government which ought to know better and that it
    has effectively undermined the integrity of the British
    bank the Royal Bank of Scotland, in doing so. The
    second alternative is that a major American
    department has an agency that has gone rogue on it
    because it has been wound up and has created a
    structure out of which they are seeking to get at least
    50 billion Euros as a payoff. And the third possibility
    is that this is an extraordinarily elaborate fraud which
    has not been carried out but which has been prepared
    in order to provide a threat to one government or
    more if they don’t pay them off. So there are three
    possibilities and this all needs a very urgent review.





    My Lords, it starts in April and May of 2009, with the
    alleged transfer to the United Kingdom, to HSBC of a
    sum of 50 trillion dollars and seven days later, in
    comes another 50 trillion dollars to HSBC, and then 3
    weeks later another 50 trillion. 5 trillion in each case.
    Sorry. A total of 15 trillion dollars is alleged to have
    been passed into the hands of HSBC for onward
    transit to the Royal Bank of Scotland and we need to
    look at where this came from and what the history of
    this money is. And I have been trying to sort out the
    sequence by which this money has been created and
    from where it has come from for a long time.





    It starts off apparently as the property of a man called
    Yohannes Riyadi. Which has some claims to be the
    richest man in the world. Well he would be if all the
    money that was owed to him was paid, but I have
    seen accounts of his showing he owns 36 trillion
    dollars in a bank. And it is a ridiculous sum of money.
    On the other hand the 36 trillion dollars would be
    consistent with the dynasty from which he comes and
    the fact that they had been effectively the emperors
    of Indo-China in times gone by. But a lot of that
    money has been taken away from him with his
    consent by the American treasury over the years for
    the specific purpose of helping to support the dollar.





    He has sent to me a really quite remarkable document
    which is dated in February 2006 in which the
    American government, according to a meeting with
    the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, which is
    neither a Federal Reserve, nor a Bank. It’s a bit like
    celebrity big brother. It’s got three names to describe
    it and none of them are true. And this document,
    which is quite astonishing, purports to have been a
    meeting. It is witnessed by Mr. Alan Greenspan, who
    signed for the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, of
    which he was chairman, as well as the real Federal
    Reserve Bank in Washington. And it is signed by Mr.
    Timothy Geithner, as a witness on behalf of the
    International Monetary Fund who sent two witnesses,
    the other one being Mr. Yusuke Horiguchi and these
    gentlemen have signed as witnesses to the effect that
    this deal is a proper deal. There are a lot of other
    signatures on here as well. This is not a photocopy.
    This is an original version of the contract. Under
    which the American treasury has apparently got the
    Federal Reserve Bank of New York to offer to buy out
    the bonds which have been issued to Mr. Riyadi to
    replace the cash which has been taken from him over
    the previous ten years and they’re giving him 500
    million dollars, as a cash payment to buyout
    worthless bonds.





    Now this is all in the agreement and it’s very
    remarkable. I would have thought that establishing
    whether this is a correct piece of paper or not is just
    2 phone calls away. One to Mr. Geithner and one to
    Mr. Greenspan. Both of whom still prosper and live,
    so they could easily confirm whether they signed this.





    Mr. Riyadi has, by passing these bonds over, also put
    at the disposal of the U.S. Treasury the entire asset
    backing which he was alleged to have for the 15
    trillion. I now have a letter here — from the Bank of
    Indonesia, which says that the whole thing was a pack
    of lies. That he did not have the 750,000 tonnes of
    gold which was supposed to be backing it. He only
    had 700 tonnes. And this is really a piece of complete
    fabrication.





    Finally, I have a letter here from Mr. Riyadi himself,
    who tells me he was put up to do this and that none
    of it was true and that he has been robbed of all his
    money and I’m quite prepared to recognize that one
    of the possibilities here is that Mr. Riyadi is himself
    putting this together as a forgery in order to try and
    win some recovery back.





    But it gets more complicated than that. Because each
    of the 5 trillion payments that came in has been
    acknowledged and receipted by the executives at
    HSBC and again receipted by the executives at the
    Royal Bank of Scotland. And I have a set of the whole
    of those receipts for all of this money. Why would any
    bank want to sign 5 trillion dollars worth, 15 trillion
    total, of receipts if the money didn’t exist.





    The money was said to have come, first of all from
    the Riyadi account, to the Federal Reserve Bank of
    New York, and from the Federal Reserve Bank of New
    York it was passed through JPMorgan Chase in New
    York for onward transit to London. The means of
    sending it was a SWIFT note, which ought to have
    been registered with the Bank of England if it was
    genuine. So when this happened and came about, I
    first of all took it to my noble friend Lord Strathclyde
    (sp?), and said, “what do we do with this”?





    He said, give it to Lord Sassoon, he’s with treasury. So
    we did and Lord Sassoon looked at it and said
    immediately, “This is rubbish — it’s far too much
    money, it would stick out like a sore thumb and you
    can’t see it in the Royal Bank of Scotland accounts”.
    Quite right. Secondly he said, “The gold backing is
    ridiculous, there has only ever been 1,507 tonnes of
    gold mined in the history of the world, so you can’t
    have 750,000 tonnes” [Editors Note: The 1,507
    tonnes is not correct, but the number is still FAR
    smaller than the 750,000 tonnes -- somewhere
    around 150,000 metric tonnes]. This is true and the
    third thing he said obviously was, “it’s a scam”, and I
    agree with him. It was a scam. The problem is we
    stopped looking at that point. We should have asked,
    what is the scam? Instead of, at that time, just
    nodding it off. And we have never really resolved this,
    because today, I have this piece of paper.





    Which is my justification for bringing it into this
    meeting today, which is available on the internet and
    I’m astonished that it hasn’t already been unearthed
    by the treasury and every alarm bell in the land
    should be ringing if it has. Because this is the general
    audit office of the Federal Reserve…the real Federal
    Reserve in Washington. And its audit review in the
    end of July of 2010 on the Federal Reserve Bank of
    New York. It has on it, some 20 banks listed, to which
    16.115 trillion dollars are outstanding in loans. My
    Lords, that is the sore thumb that was being looked
    for by Lord Sassoon.





    But more particularly there are two other very
    interesting things in this. The first is that Barclays
    Bank got 868 billion in loans, the Royal Bank of
    Scotland has got 541 billion, in which case, one has
    to ask, is that they could have earned in three weeks,
    enough to pay off their entire indebtedness to the
    taxpayers of Britain, why they have not done so and
    can we please ask them to put a check in the post for
    the whole 46 billion.





    And the third thing that is wrong with it is that every
    bank on this list, without exception, is an MTN-
    registered bank. Which means they are registered to
    use the medium term notes to move funds between
    themselves with an agreed profit share formula. In
    which case these banks are investing this money and
    most extraordinary, not a penny of interest does the
    Federal Reserve Bank want paid on this vast amount
    of 16 trillion.





    Anyone amongst yourselves who knows what the IMF
    rules for financials are will immediately smell a rat.
    Because the IMF has very strict rules for validating
    dodgy money. There are two ways of doing it. You
    either pass it through a major central bank, like the
    Bank of England, who have apparently refused to
    touch this. Or alternatively, you put it through to a
    bank which is an MTN trading bank. Which is then
    able to use the funds on the overnight European MTN
    trading market where they can earn between 1 and
    2.5% profit per night. And the compound interest on
    that is huge. So there is a vast profit being made with
    this money somewhere if it is in fact genuine.





    So my Lords, I believe that this is such an important
    issue now that I’ve put everything I’ve got on this
    subject into a 104 megabyte memory thumb. And I
    want the government to put this to some suitable
    investigative bureau and take everything I’ve got on
    the subject and find out what the truth is about what
    is going on here because there is something very
    seriously wrong. Either we have a huge amount of tax
    uncollected on profits made, or we’ve got a vast
    amount of money festering away in the European
    banking system which is not real money, in which
    case we need to take it back. My Lords, I ask for an
    investigation and please support my plea.

    #2
    So does this have something to do with the fact that Obama insisted and just had to have Tim Geithner as Tres Sec. even after he was found out to be a tax cheat, and inappropriate for the job.

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123187503629378119.html

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      #3
      To make a long story short , you cant believe
      anyone, and especially the american govt. This is
      why i have really tempered my purchases of
      precious metals. It is so easy for the govt to
      confiscate them or make them worthless. I dont
      trust the big machine.


      With the flick of a switch and a good dose of
      media, Boom!

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        #4
        And above all...what in hell does this have to do with Commodity Marketing and especially commodities relating to agriculture?

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          #5
          ....."YAWN".....

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            #6
            The amount of money in the world does actually
            effect the price of commodities.

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              #7
              Cotton
              Obviously Wilagro likes his alternate
              reality... or perhaps he is playing
              'hard to get' with us!

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                #8
                The total "amount" of money in the world's economy is not as important as the "availability" of that money.

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                  #9
                  I totally agree with farmaholic on this one
                  ....."YAWN".....

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                    #10
                    Geeezzzus, You guys sleep till Noon every day and yer still Tired?????

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