Conservatives Up In New Poll Despite Recent Troubles

[FarmRanger]

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[wilagro]

Was the poll taken before or after McKay got his "free" helicopter ride?...you know, the one disguised as a training mission?

[freewheat]

Yup, after willy.

[cottonpicken]

Mcay is a okay,in the militaries books,we are got
ourselves some new f-35's to fight off big bad spooky
countries who don't even manufacture cars let alone
planes,i wonder if my kids,kids will still be paying for
them?

[cottonpicken]

You conservatives need to look in the mirror once in a while.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3a8xSgB-o8o&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL13045D2 472CE32E0

[Burbert]

Ifn this was the truth, then Comedians are
really, really, really stupid
people........

[parsley]

The main job of a governmen is to protect it's
citizens; not grants, not pensions, not bursaries,
not loans.

Only strong armed forces can protect citizens.
Support them with tax dollars. Pars

[rockpile]

I think Cott makes the point that the Cons talk a big
talk on being fiscal Conservatives but spend like a
bunch of socialists. Why do we need first strike
fighter bombers to defend our country? Better
defence options out there than F-35s. I am all for
the men and women of our forces - many friends in
the ranks. But if the Harpies were more sincere than
a stewardess's smile they could start by taking
better care of our veterans who have served,
especially those who have been scarred by their
sacrifice. And that is all I have to say about that. Oh,
read your comments re: Stu Wells - when are you
dropping the ringer?

[freewheat]

On the military thing, we need a strong
and vigourous military. There are things
I believe going on in this world, that
once exposed will make Hitler look like
Santa Claus. The media, left, and the
general public really have no idea what
kind of crap is going to happen at some
point. Trust me, when it happens, you
will be wishing you had pushed for more
military might.

Just my opinion on the military.

I do agree however, that the
conservatives are not fiscally as right
as I wish they were, perhaps they will
come around at some point. Conservatives
are the old type of liberals, liberals
are the old ndp, and the ndp are still
communists!

[rockpile]

Freewheat: At no time do I disagree with having
strong Armed Forces. I'm suggesting the F-35 is a
white elephant. I will remind you that it was the
Chretien Libs who first signed onto the joint fighter
task force program. The Aussies and Japan have
bailed. Norway is going the same route. I have a
friend in the Air Force and here is how 65 fighters
break down. About one third of the fleet is
designated training and exercise units - basically
'dummy' planes. About one third sit in maintenance
hangers at any given time. Leaves and active fleet of
20 some planes. I suggest for the same amount of
money we, like the Japanese and Aussies, lobby
Congress to have access to the Super Hornet, of
which we could buy twice as many if not more for
the same cost. The Super Hornet is superior to the
F-35 in every aspect except stealth capability. As
for your paranoia regarding new enemies, if it's
China, Russia or Pakistan - I'd point out that fighter
jets are not needed; a strong nuclear deterrent is
what is effective. As for these dust ups like Libya
and Afghanistan, is the outcome any better than the
initial problem?

[Burbert]

Yous boys/girls have been watching to
much Fox News. Are you afraid of your
own shadows, too. Arm yourselves to the
teeth, threaten your neighbours, they'll
learn ta stay on the other sidea the
fence. We don't need more jails, more
army guys/airforce guys/navy guys ta
protect us. There are some large bodies
of water coast ta coast ta coast. OBL is
dead, gone and buried at see. Unless
you are hinting that the us is making
more, terrors everyday. Heck their own
citizens don't like there gobermont,
mosta the time, hence they are always
findin bogey men/women and makin war.
Comedia is different, isn't it? I mean
we are polite and responsive ta world
issues, peacekeepers. Everybody likes
us, except us apparently.........

[rockpile]

Burbert - I have a very good friend who was a peace
keeper in Cyprus many years ago and was once in a
position where he had machine guns pointed at
both behind his head and in front. It took him 3
hours to diffuse the situation through negotiation.
And it took him 3 hours and a lifetime to get his
shorts cleaned! We need a strong airforce to
maintain Arctic and Coastal sovereignty whether we
like it or not. And then there are little incidents like
9/11 where a fighter jet or two might not be a bad
idea to have. Trust me I'm a pacifist and have no
interest in spilling blood. But don't ever try breaking
into my castle! Violence is only justified as the last
resort and I am born of Huns and Vampires. We've
seen too much!