Occupy

[hobbyfrmr]

I have a US grain buyer, he has house, wife, 3 kids. He goes to work everyday to create valuable transactions to add value to the company so he can get his salary. This guy grew up on a farm in Iowa skinning muskrats for extra money. He is 42 yrs old, but when living on the farm, they were extremely cash poor. He understands money, and he understands no money. He now owns a few rental properties in Omaha for a sideline, he pays his bills and has no sympathy for the Occupy movement. He is a very modest American citizen and I admire what he is doing. Not very interesting some days, but he will feed and shelter his family. His only statement about Occupy is, that the protesting will cool down in direct relation to the weather!!!! "When the mercury drops below 55F, they will scurry like rats!"

[cottonpicken]

Imo,there are several reasons for all this and some
of them are good.

Taxpayers shouldn't be put on the hook for others
mistakes is one,but something like that gets lost in
the all the chaos.

There are problems that need solutions but the
solutions that are floating around in peoples heads
will make things worse.

I seriously wonder when these people get their
paychecks if they even look at what the government
takes?Or when they buy something if know exactly
what a gst pst is and where it goes?Or why things
continually get more expensive?

[hobbyfrmr]

I think they are exhibiting their fear of the future in America. It will not be as comfortable as in the past. Fortunately in the USA these citizens have the right of free speech. Protest vs. government in Uganda, and they will cut your head off and kick it around in the street. Those yankee protesters would be a bunch of no head, no starbucks drinking, no Gucci mitten wearing carcasses in a different country. Somebody has forgotten to count their blessings!

[parsley]

You are technically wrong about the taxation, but
I will nor argue over % of tax paid or cap gains
paid and you know that all too well.
Cott pays 30% and Malta pays 40% and Tom
pays 50%. The pound of flesh on the scale
varies per class and per year

The point is this: do you want the billionaires to
move to another country or not ? Grenada?
Grand cayman? Buffet can. He's simply
campaigning. Pars

[parsley]

What bothers me, rocky, is that you dont value a
Canadian business man's property in NYC He
paid for it, he has a bunch of squatters move on
it, defecate on it, and devalue it Police won't
defend his property.

Would you feel the same if it was your farm?

[mbratrud]

http://youtu.be/992TkYucviw

Can Ron Paul make this occupy movement his own? I wish I could vote for the man!

[liberty]

Here's a very appropriate quote from columnist George Will in a recent National Post article concerning the Occupy (insert location here) movement:

And forgiveness of “all debt on the entire planet period.” Progressivism’s battle cry is: “Mulligan!” It demands the ultimate entitlement — emancipation from the ruinous results of all prior claims of entitlement.

[parsley]

Let's say your farm income is $10M taxable,
Rocky.

If taxpayers take 30% from you, you are saying it
should be more? How much more? When is
enough enough?

Some *****hit junkie living on needlerow in vncvr
pays nothing all his life to even ever build a road
or pay a teacher, but he complains he should
have an iphone and a holiday in Mexico and
have a sauna just like yours?

And you should just shut up and pay, is that
correct? Pars.

[rockpile]

Parsley, I have different ethical business standards
compared to Brookfield. Your question is unfair,
and depending on the issue at hand, maybe I would
let them on my land. The issue that is being ignored
in all of this discussion is social contract, and while
you may want to be an island unto yourself, in a
world of 7 billion people, soon to be 9, you can't be.
So the real moral question is, what is the cost I'm
willing to pay to keep the privilege I enjoy? What is
my fair share? Am I entitled to my wealth at the
expense of sending young poor black kids to fight
wars overseas so my investments are protected? Try
thinking out of the Ayn Rand box and look at the
big picture.
I'll leave you with this thought. I'm fairly well off and
pay more in taxes than the average Canadian earns.
But, even knowing that lots of that hard earned
money is wasted, I don't lose any sleep at night
because I know when I get up I can go anywhere
and do just about anything I want and I can pretty
well say anything I want and not be beheaded for
that. I'm thankful for that freedom! You should
watch Joe's video on farming in Brazil. That's the
real threat to you girlie! BTW, what's this about
organic market share shrinking?

[cottonpicken]

Mbratrud,there is good reason to believe he can pull it
off,but i like man so much i almost don't want him to.

He will either have one of those special "heart attacks"
or the pain of what needs to be done will label him an
antichrist.