Just thinking about Winnipeg...

[chuckChuck]

So to all the posts who claim freedom is the issue, why did you likely vote for a government that supports supply managed marketing boards for dairy and poultry products? Where is the freedom in import tarifs restricting competition, cost of production calculations , quota, fixed prices?

By many measures Canada is one of the wealthiest countries in the world and farmers here are some of the best paid and successful. So constantly whineing that you have to work within the CWB with other farmers in a single desk marketing program with numerous cash pricing options is a little rich.

[parsley]

Many, many farmers have fought against supply management with candidates, and political parties, and governments.

Jack would have supply-managed your visits to his spa to enjoy a ground wheat body wrap. The NDP would supply manage farms if they had enough support.

Some political parties want to plan your entire life for you. Cradle to grave. They will do it if we allow them, because their benefits are, yes, pension plans and perks and salaries.

All of them get greedy fat.

The problem is, Ontario and Quebec have a grip on votes cast. Eastern farmers also supply Eastern cities. You don't imagine they want chuckchuck's cream hitting the aisles in Toronto, do you?

So they vote to keep their little fiefdom. The Conservatives have maintained their milkmanaging, but not without a battle from within.

And it will continue.

[chuckChuck]

Hey Tom,Thanks for supporting the arguments in favour of a single desk by giving us the Monsanto example.

So Roundup was over $20 per litre when it first came out and now you can buy glyphosphate for $2.50 after Monsanto lost its patent monopoly. Tom,you seemed to have missed the obvious point of this example.

Tom what happened to the price of Roundup/glyphosphate when Monsanto lost its' patent monopoly and had to compete with multiple sellers? The price dropped Tom!! It is now a mere fraction of the original price.

Weren't you trying to argue that prices would be higher with multiple sellers in an open market?

So how low do you think farmers will have to price their grain in an open market to be successful like Monsanto Tom?

You and many others are so damn obsessed with attacking the CWB your ability to present coherent rational arguments is limited by your obsession.

When in doubt resort to the freedom argument like parsley does all the time.

[chuckChuck]

Parsley,
Who in the Conservative party caucus is openly criticizing supply management? If your policy is freedom for farmers then compulsory marketing boards such as supply management should be gone. It is such a joke to hear Ritz talk about bringing freedom to farmers by ending the CWB monopoly while his support for supply management continues.

So when did greed become the domain of only of public sector? Have you not heard the news yet about the investment bankers on Wall Street who were bailed out by their government only to continue paying themselves fat bonuses.

Why are you not concerned about the greed that goes on in the private sector Parsley? Is it because they earned their bonuses through hard work and because they are smarter than the rest of us?

You seem to blindly put your faith only in the market economy. Why are/were Canadian banks in better financial shape than US banks coming through the last recession? Primarily because Canadians have better banking regulations than the US.

It must be true because Harpo said so.

[Braveheart]

Supply management can't be compared to the CWB. The differences are so blaringly obvious they don't need discussion.

The one point though that always gets me is how supply management is viewed. Often, free enterprisers despise it and usually socialists like it. But here's the thing. Supply management is the most capitalist form of business in the country.

What does every capitalist want? To corner the market. Supply management does that. It restricts the competition with closed borders or high tariff rate quotas. Guarantees profit (good management still required).

Freedom? Why yes. Anyone can buy quota if the can swing the finacing.

For people with the mindset of Chuckchuck supply management should be appalling. Only the rich need apply.

With the wheat board, it's only a single buying desk. Wheat or barley can enter the country anytime. Tariff rate quotas don't come into effect until very high tonnages are reached. Anyone can grow any amount or acreage they wish.

Find a new argument Chuckchuck.