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  • blackpowder
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2010
    • 9311

    Marketing or selling?

    Why does everyone use the term "marketing"?
    IMHO what we do is "selling"
  • parsley
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2000
    • 10986

    #2
    Bartering.

    Sales pitch:
    "You wanna buy more blackberry/potash/frenchfries? We'll ship you cheap wheat."

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    • TOM4CWB
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2000
      • 16511

      #3
      Blackpowder,

      Marketing and selling are actually two seperate functions.

      Hopefully the 'marketing' is done and done well; BEFORE the selling!

      Marketing is used to identify the customer, to satisfy the customer, and try to keep the customer. With the customer as the focus of its activities, it can be concluded that marketing management is one of the major components of business management. Marketing evolved to meet the stasis in developing new markets caused by mature markets and production overcapacity. The adoption of marketing strategies requires businesses to shift their focus from production to the perceived needs and wants of their customers as the means of staying profitable.


      The selling of our produce, in return for money or other compensation, is the sale.

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      • TOM4CWB
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2000
        • 16511

        #4
        Blackpowder,

        Perhaps this is why the CWB said no farmer can market their own board grains... in the 'designated area'... because we must sell our produce to the CWB. No commercial relationship, no negotiation in theory... one price only allowed for a sale at a specific point in time.

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        • wd9
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2000
          • 3196

          #5
          Marketing is something that we do to let people know what products we have to offer.

          Selling is something that we do to show people that the products we have to offer are of value to them and close the sale.

          We do both in different aspects in ag.

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          • blackpowder
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 9311

            #6
            I often hear 'I market my wheat to Japan'

            No, you sell it to someone else who 'markets' it to Japan. Perception.

            Most farmers I talk to don't know the quality parameters of their product or the requirements of end users.
            "What good does that do?" I hear a lot. Well I guess in our system you don't have to.
            Lots don't even have accurate representative samples.
            Shop it around?
            I believe the human psyche looks at disposing of an asset very differently than accumalating it. Basic human nature. Thereby selling of an asset, (stocks, cows, unused machinery) is driven by emotion.
            Anyways, most people go to one or two companys at best. Believe what we hear at coffee.
            IMHO 'marketing' is a catchphrase introduced into mainstream to give us a better perception of what we do.
            Not describe what we really do.

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            • blackpowder
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 9311

              #7
              Just read above posts. I enjoy reading that which says it better than I do. Thank you.

              But don't you get warm fuzzys being told you 'market' 'your' grain?

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              • charliep
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2000
                • 9002

                #8
                Perhaps where we fail are in logistics and execution. In your Japanese example,
                I note the CWB has not been able to fill two Japanese tenders. This business
                will be done elsewhere - the US supplies the vast majority of Japanese milling
                wheat needs anyway. I know a difficult year because of quality but I suspect
                there are higher quality supplies in farmers bins. The question then becomes
                how do you match what is in farmers bins with a marketing activity for quality
                wheat and a specific sale. The CWB system tries to do this without a price
                signal/benefit to all members of the supply chain. Yes there are guaranteed
                delivery contracts but no financial benefit to farmers at least (or a small one
                like a trucking incentive).

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                • cottonpicken
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2006
                  • 6993

                  #9
                  I think we are talking about if the sun is white or
                  yellow.

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                  • furrowtickler
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 21980

                    #10
                    good point cotton...

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