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Why does the CWB treat its customers better than farmers?

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  • jdepape
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 706

    Why does the CWB treat its customers better than farmers?

    <b>Did you know</b> ... that the CWB will defer (delay) shipping on a contract to a customer, at the customer’s request, at no additional cost? (I've heard they will defer shipment by as much as a year at no cost to the buyer.)

    Yet farmers have to pay for the privilege. To roll a basis contract (BPC) from one futures month to the next, the farmer pays the spread in the futures; to buy out of a contract, a farmer is assessed a buyout cost plus an administration fee. Also, if a farmer is in default, he is fined.

    <b>Did you know</b> ... that the CWB will ship higher grades than what the customer’s contract specifies with no increase in price?

    Yet the CWB will often not accept lower grades from farmers, even with a lower price. And if a farmer delivers a lower grade than what was contracted, he is often penalized harshly.

    <b>Did you know</b> ... that the CWB will sell to customers on a true market-based unpriced basis, for deferred delivery at the buyers call?

    Yet the CWB does not buy from farmers on a true basis. The basis in the BPC is not market based; it is a derivative of the market PLUS the impact of the sales previously made by the CWB (including both basis and futures) PLUS arbitrary adjustments by the CWB to reflect its view of risk.

    <b>Did you know</b> ... the CWB borrows at government rates (call it 0.5% for argument’s sake) and offers credit to customers at “commercial” rates (call it 4%)?

    Yet the CWB does not offer credit to farmers. (The Cash Advance Program is a federal government program administered by the CWB).

    It can be argued that EPOs are a form of credit since the CWB is advancing you money that, under normal circumstances, you wouldn’t get until much later. If you think about the EPO payment above the Initial Payment as credit, the discount charged by the CWB can be considered as the cost of that credit – or interest. So the additional payment on delivery on a 100% EPO on feed wheat, for example, costs an estimated 11.0%. (The irony is it's your money in the first place.)

    On FPCs, the CWB pays “incremental payments” for deliveries called later in the year. According to the CWB these are reflective of the time value of money. They work out to about 0.3% - a far cry from the true “time value of money” for farmers.

    Bottom line - it's better to be a CWB customer than a CWB “supplier”.
  • TOM4CWB
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2000
    • 16511

    #2
    Depape,

    Simple answer:

    The CWB 'single desk' monopoly is over 'designated area' grain growers...

    NOT the customers we supply who can buy grain any day from some where else.

    These customers smooze and talk down sales prices... that is the name of the game.

    If I try to talk more value out of the CWB pool... I am a silly Eskimo farmer who need his head examined because I believe we should be allowed to:

    JUST SAY NO. I need someone else to market/service my grain information system.

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    • TOM4CWB
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2000
      • 16511

      #3
      ONLY IN the CWB 'designatged area'.

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      • TOM4CWB
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2000
        • 16511

        #4
        The 'Beswick' in Saskatoon!

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        • Burbert
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2007
          • 2242

          #5
          I doubt very much, that the truck parked on the street in the pic, is legal. After all, there are also parking regulations in Comedia too. In other words the pic is a phoney as the message painted on the side of the unit!! Framers for Justice. What next, Free Parking Get Outta Jail Cards?

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          • TOM4CWB
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2000
            • 16511

            #6
            Burbert,

            I doubt very much that the CWB confiscating our wheat and barley is legal... yet they have been doing this since 1996.

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            • theplowboy
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2000
              • 215

              #7
              There is no reason to treat farmers well, what options do we have...

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              • TOM4CWB
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2000
                • 16511

                #8
                PLOWBOY,
                If that is your video talking about the 'guy who stole by credit card and took off to VEGUS with the floozie next door' that was ACE!

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