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Canadian ChoicesWheat Letter - December 2, 2010

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  • TOM4CWB
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2000
    • 16511

    Canadian ChoicesWheat Letter - December 2, 2010

    God Bless America!

    "5. Canadian Choices

    Elections are underway in western Canada for some of the directorships of the Canadian Wheat Board. We can't help but wonder whether western Canadian wheat producers might choose some more directors who in turn want to give real economic choice back to the producers; a choice of when, where, and to whom to market their own wheat and barley.

    Here at USW we've been concerned at the gradual decline in wheat acreage as economic returns to corn and soybeans have outpaced wheat and driven more producers, especially in the eastern and northern parts of our wheat country, to plant those crops instead of wheat. Interestingly, western Canada's wheat area has been declining even faster, giving way to more canola and specialty crops. Those crops also give producers many more marketing options than milling wheat and malting barley, where their only legal market is the CWB.

    Recent analyses continue to show that northern U.S. producers receive considerably more money through our open marketing system than their cross-border cousins are able to earn from very similar wheat. The stated purpose of the CWB is to maximize returns to western Canadian wheat and barley producers, yet they are apparently failing to do so. Meanwhile, the WTO Doha Development Round of negotiations is showing some new signs of life, with a push underway to complete the negotiations in 2011. The draft language of that potential agreement would ban the monopoly practices of the CWB and eliminate its ability to borrow funds at government rates. The CWB would have to either become a much different animal, perhaps running a voluntary rather than mandatory pricing pool, or cease to exist.

    Perhaps it is no accident that in Ontario, where producers are free of the CWB's iron grip, wheat area today stands at its ten-year average, even though the province receives enough moisture to grow corn and soybeans. Could it be that sustained wheat acreage in Ontario is at least partly due to the fact that producers can make their own marketing decisions? We think that is certainly part of the story. Western Canadian producers can look south to see higher prices, east within Canada to see sustained wheat production, and into their own canola returns to see the success of open marketing.

    Whether or not western Canadian wheat producers "choose choice" in this election, we are confident that the dinosaur that is the CWB will before long, one way or another, go extinct."

    http://www.uswheat.org/newsEvents/wheatLetter/doc/A292F88E8988B0FC852577EE00502F8B?OpenDocument#

    God Bless Canada!!!
  • agstar77
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2001
    • 6179

    #2
    LDP, Subsidized shipping, large internal market , couldn't those be distortions which give the U.S. an edge. Of course its easier to target our system. Wheat acres are declining because the world is not able or willing to pay a price which will allow designated farmers as large a return as other crops. You can use the CWB as a whipping boy, but eliminating it will not increase profits or production. You can continue on your crusade, but it won't change reality.

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    • TOM4CWB
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2000
      • 16511

      #3
      Agstar77,

      Intimidation,
      Denial,
      Hypocritical rhetoric;

      'The Eskimo Slaves ('designated area wheat growers') must be kept in the 'igloo' growing wheat.

      NO INTERNET or Satellite communications allowed!!!

      The 'Master' Dinosaur has spoken... We must all bow down and take a walk into the freezing pool!!!

      The motto at the CWB meeting...

      You can tell a 'Eskimo Slave'

      But you can't tell them much!!!

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      • grassfarmer
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2002
        • 9734

        #4
        If the Americans are so concerned with the raw deal Canadian producers are getting under the cwb why have they initiated so many trade challenges against Canada?

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        • Fransisco
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2007
          • 3859

          #5
          Agstar care to back up some of your comments with some facts for a change?

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          • Fransisco
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2007
            • 3859

            #6
            grassfarmer, try thinking through your own question. There are trade challenges because the CWB raises the global price of wheat? No, its because it constantly undercuts everyone else thereby driving everybody's prices down.

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            • TOM4CWB
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2000
              • 16511

              #7
              Grassfarmer,

              Question,

              "If the Americans are so concerned with the raw deal Canadian producers are getting under the cwb why have they initiated so many trade challenges against Canada?"

              Answer;

              Most US growers think the Canadian government subsidises the CWB 'designated area' grain growers...

              No farmer would be foolish enough to... year after year... Cargo after Cargo... give away: protein, high quality and cleaning... for nothing... without being subsidised... would they Grassfarmer?

              INSTEAD;

              Americans have found out we 'designated area' grain growers are just STUPID... Fools

              We collectively choose give our grain away... at bargain basement jaw breaking CWB prices...

              IS it against the law to be a foolish and stupid... 'designated area' wheat/barley growers...Grassfarmer?

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              • grassfarmer
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2002
                • 9734

                #8
                Here are a couple to get you started. US trade challenges and results.

                #1. Investigation - Section 332: Conditions of competition between the U.S. and Canadian durum industries.

                Carried out by - U.S. International Trade Commission (ITC) under Section 332 of Tariff Act of 1930

                Date - June 1990

                Findings - Study confirmed Canadian wheat sold in the U.S. at or above U.S. market prices. No evidence to support U.S. allegations.


                #2. Investigation - Section 332: Conditions of competition between the U.S. and Canadian wheat and durum industries.

                Carried out by - U.S. ITC under section 332 of the Tariff Act of 1930.

                Date - November 2001

                Findings - The ITC report concludes, among other findings, that Canadian durum was sold into the U.S. at prices equal to or higher than U.S. durum in all but one of 60 months examined.

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                • Fransisco
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2007
                  • 3859

                  #9
                  Hey, you're starting to get the hang of this. Care to provide the links or web address's?

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                  • Fransisco
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2007
                    • 3859

                    #10
                    By which I mean links to the actual ITC reports not the two line CWB version.

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