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    Best De Pape yet!!

    It's been said that the CWB director candidates that have stated their support for the single desk are being more honest than the ones that have not declared. Kevin Hursh, the ag commentator from Saskatoon, even suggested the ones who have not declared were trying to mask what they truly believe. He and others in the media want candidates to come clean on this one issue.



    This is fascinating to me; some candidates are being criticized for not stating "front and centre" their view of the single desk. Yet the single desk candidates are being lauded for taking a position on the single desk issue, even though they don’t have anything to say about real marketing issues in any of their election material. They just say we must keep the single desk because its what gives farmers power, or gives farmers better prices.



    In the interests of full disclosure, I have some questions for all the single desk supporting candidates:

    How do you rationalize your support for the single desk in the face of so much real evidence (even from the CWB itself) that shows that the single desk is not getting top returns for farmers and is arguable an economic drain on Western Canada?
    Why do you state your firm support for the single desk and yet never talk about its marketing performance on behalf of farmers?
    Why do you only talk about the non-marketing activities of the CWB – fighting the railroads, WTO, GMO wheat, and other advocacy roles – but don’t talk in detail about marketing?


    Not one single desk supporting candidate has ventured a public comment about the durum wheat fiasco we are facing right now. None talk about feed barley exports and how the CWB program is costing all farmers. And none address the problems with feed wheat pricing.



    If the single desk marketing system is a fundamental part of your platform, why not address these issues?



    Arguing your case on the basis of whether you are for or against the single desk reduces the election to nothing more than an ideological exercise that is, for all intents and purposes, a stalemate. Apparently this is what the media would like to see.

    You will never convince some people that there are any problems at all with the single desk. And others will never venture off the “just get rid of the CWB” position. Focusing on a singular issue like this disenfranchises the majority of producers out there that are sensible business men and women and would appreciate a sound business approach to CWB governance. When candidates put themselves in one category or another on just the single desk issue, it doesn’t give these people much to go on. Business-minded farmers want a director to just get on with the business of making the CWB work for them. As Vicki Dutton, candidate in District 5 put it in her election material, either “lead, follow or get out of the way”.



    Embracing an ideological position without facts is an impediment to sound judgment. What should matter is if these candidates are willing and capable to make the appropriate decisions to make things at the CWB better for farmers. Sorry to be blunt, but those candidates that take a strong stance in defense of the single desk, just appear to be close-minded to me.

    What would they do if it was shown that the single desk is not working and there’s a better approach? What if it was proven that a dual market could work very well? I suspect these candidates would still vote to keep the single desk.



    If you're not capable of arguing about the details about marketing with or without the single desk, perhaps you don’t have the depth to be a CWB director. The real way to govern the CWB is to put your ideology aside for minute, and rationally and reasonably assess the issues for what they are. Then address them in the most effective way possible for the benefit of farmers (not for the benefit of the CWB).



    What concerns me are directors who say they will protect the single desk on ideological grounds and ignore what the CWB’s own data is telling him. What I appreciate is someone who says – if it needs fixing, let’s do what is needed.

    Single desk directors and their supporters have had their chances to fix the single desk and they have failed. It seems to me that if someone is willing to face reality and make things better, then they should have a crack at it, regardless of their "ideology".



    And under the circumstances, it’s pretty clear that the single desk would be targeted - at least by those who have not stated their position on the single desk.





    www.cwbmonitor.blogspot.com

    #2
    Hursh Commentary he referenced

    Where are the dual market supporters?



    It’s a curious strategy. As pointed out in a front page Western Producer story by Adrian Ewins, none of the candidates running in the Canadian Wheat Board election is identifying themselves as being a supporter of marketing choice or a dual market.



    In all the other CWB elections, virtually all the candidates clearly identified themselves as being either a supporter of the current single desk or a supporter of marketing choice. This time around, there are eight candidates who support the single desk and five (one in each of the districts) who talk about needing improvements to CWB marketing but stop short of calling for an end to the single desk.



    You have to think it’s a deliberate and orchestrated approach – perhaps something recommended by a strategist that advised all five of them. In the past, these same people haven’t been shy about saying they wanted marketing choice and it’s hard to believe their opinions have changed.



    I respect both the single desk argument and the argument in favour of marketing freedom. I don’t appreciate candidates in any election trying to mask what they truly believe.



    It’ll be interesting to see if the strategy has a discernable effect on the outcome when the ballots are counted.



    I’m Kevin Hursh.

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      #3
      Hurshes second comment

      Election advice



      There have been some interesting discussions as a result of my producer election commentaries from the past couple days. Here are some additional thoughts.



      I’ve had discussions with a couple of the producers running for Canadian Wheat Board director positions - candidates that support marketing choice, but haven’t mentioned that in their election information. These candidates say they are planning to work within the current system for changes they believe will be positive for farmers. Thus they didn’t declare their preference for marketing freedom.



      I think it would have been more forthright to tell the voters the full story. It may have even improved their election chances. I would also disagree with a single desk supporter not openly declaring that position.



      The other election commentary took exception to the lack of information for ratepayers on rural municipal elections. If it’s too much expense and bother to send a letter to ratepayers telling them who is running and when the vote is being held, why not have all the election information on a website?



      Rural municipalities could send their election information to SARM and it could all be posted on the SARM website for everyone to see. That would be inexpensive and effective.



      I’m Kevin Hursh.

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        #4
        Gotta love it when Kevin Hursh meddles and tries to manipulate. I'm not sure it matters again though, as in my area all those that are fed up threw their ballots in the garbage. A non vote is like a vote for the CWB in my opinion.

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          #5
          Brings up a question do you really want a candidate elected that will make a few improvements to marketing within the board, which would ultimately lead to a few more saying hey let's not fight this thing, or do you leave it as it and fight to get rid of it totally.

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            #6
            We Voted for the one guy who kind of hinted he wanted change. Better than throwing the ballots in the waste. I just wish some one would run thats lets drop the CWB. No not the boy from NE of Regina that got their then changed his mind.

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              #7
              JDGreen:

              Throwing your ballot away is worse than that! I've heard stories of people picking ballots out of the garbage in rural post offices and submitting them as their own!

              Don't throw them away!

              Too often, guys think they can "farm around the CWB" and so don't care about the elections because "it doesn't affect me". Guess what? It does affect you even if you don't grow CWB crops. The price of canola is lower because guys sell it to get cash flow that they don't get from CWB crops. Also, if people are growing less wheat to avoid the CWB, they are growing more of something else - the added production will pressure prices.

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                #8
                But if you "farm around the CWB" which i do, you are not allowed to vote. I have not had a permit book in 8 years. I do not think i am allowed to vote. Can someone confirm this for me.

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                  #9
                  @Dave as long as you grow one of the 7?? eligible crops you can do a statutory declaration to receive a ballot.
                  kind of like how the rest of us peasants apply for a permit book.

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                    #10
                    You can vote Dave. Just scan in your lentil sales/flax/etc You need to apply for a ballot though Pars

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                      #11
                      Goodbye Board



                      Some people think grain farmers would be better off without the Wheat Board.

                      Others think we can have a Wheat Board that is not a single desk seller. They believe a CWB without inland elevators, terminal elevators at port or any capital can compete by asking its competitors to handle grain it has a sale for.

                      They are really saying the CWB should establish a price, which they and their friends can undercut to compete for sales.

                      This idea has just been tried in Australia. Find out why it failed by going to: (Link to: Notes on the Loss of the Australian Wheat Board Single Desk)

                      It has also been tried in Canada several times. Remember what happened when oats was removed from the CWB? A Look back at the Oat Debacle: (Link to: Oat Debacle)

                      Of course realistic politicians understand that in commodity markets single desks, like the CWB, benefit the producers of the commodity. As Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall recently observed, ending the single desk in potash would make Saskatchewan “transition from being price leaders to price takers.” (Link to: Single Desk Good for Potash - Why Not Grain?)

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                        #12
                        Really, Canpotex and the CWB are the same thing? I don't think so. That's just as kooky as trying to pretend that supply management and the CWB are the same.

                        If anything Canpotex is a cartel. Maybe it does have the market-share and the power to affect prices but the CWB certainly doesn't.

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                          #13
                          And if things are so bad in Australia how come wheat acreage hasn't dropped post monopoly?

                          And the former board still has about 20% marketshare?

                          Oh, and there are now other private companies down under offering pooling? I guess they didn't get your memo saying voluntary pooling just couldn't work.

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                            #14
                            If anyone thinks the cwb can be like canpotex their head is so far up their ass they are probably choking on it.

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                              #15
                              Why stubble, I overestimated you.

                              Here I thought you were actually starting to think about things and debating the issue but instead you're just copy and pasting without even bothering to list the source.

                              http://www.cwbafacts.ca/goodbye_board.html

                              There's nothing particularly wrong with this but at least have the courtesy of giving the appropriate credit to the person or persons who came up with the argument.

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