2010 Excess Moisture Program - File/Re-file

[booboo04]

Unseeded acres get you access to the $30 and $50, but just remember the $30 will be less than $30 due to the reduction factor they use. No one gets $30/ac. Also more importantly those acres are out of your production numbers so if you enter a claim you are hurting your crop insurance payment. DO NOT claim the $30 if it got seeded. Not to mention unseeded acres will haunt you in both present and future crop insurance claims.

If seeded and lost to flood you will get to keep the acres in your garrantee calculation and you still get the $50/ac. On my lentils my crop insurance will be $400,000, if I mistakenly claim 10% not seeded then my payment will be $350,000 and $30 program payment only $5,000. While at the same time the loss due to flood ($50 program) will be $15,000 in both cases.

[riders2010]

every circumstance is different, how are you getting the 50 dollars and coverage? 50 dollars was for too wet so no ci production liability further i was told. if you are overcoverage on let's keep it simple 2 fields seeded, you can harvest all of 1 and are above ci production in next field cannot harvest due to wet and drowned out areas you wouldn't claim the 30?

[booboo04]

Rider... There is sort of 2 different $50 programs but you can only get one or the other. A farmer can get some not seeded money and then get more for flooded... but these acres are independent of each other.. You get either not seeded, or flooded after seeding. Not seeded removes the acres from crop ins so your guarantee is lowered, but flooded after seeding it gets you $50 but you keep the acres in your guarantee.

[riders2010]

When was the deadline for the after seeded flooded, because that was not the way it was explained to us. If you took the 50 bucks, on acres seeded and flooded you got the establishment benefit if you worked it by a certain date. then you would get 30 on top. But if you seeded and had crop and it flooded but could not work it out you got only the liability and 30 bucks.

I think the deadlines for all of this should have been extended, I know some of our fields not turning out what we thought but how could you tell until swathing.

[riders2010]

Maybe the question to ask is did different parts of the province treat the 50 and 30 different from other areas of the province? How does this work in Manitoba and Alberta?

[booboo04]

Application for $50 has two columns. One says Too Wet to Seed, and the other Seeded Then Flooded. Even if you worked should not matter because it ws seeded then flooded. Sept 30 is the deadline.

[riders2010]

What application for 50 we filed our seeded acreage report and it was calculated?

[riders2010]

what province are you in booboo?

[booboo04]

On your seeded acreage report you lumped the Seeded Acres Flooded along with your unseeded acres. At the time you filed your seeded acreage report you had X number of acres flooded, now you have x several more acres since spring.

Actually you have to apply for Seeded acres Flooded (no other way to get it). Go online and find the application.

Just a guess but... Send back your unseeded acre payment and cancel that claim, and at the same time apply for seeded acres flooded. Claim lots then don't cash the cheque until all the smoke clears. If you don't claim lots then you can't go back after the Sept 30 deadline.

Might be best to claim every acre not harvested yet, and then return what money you think is appropriate after harvest.

In my opinion, at this time every acre not combined is eligible for the $50 but you must apply. I have worked for Govt all my life, still do, and could have retired 2 yrs ago. So if there is one thing I know.... Get your claim on the books and reduce it when you feel you are safe to do so.

[fjlip]

App for $30 Excess Moisture has same columns, local office says these are amendments so not to use "too wet to seed" column. Take best guess at acres lost before July 30. They are doing random acre checks only. These acres will not come out of your CI seeded, insured production guaranteed acres. As far as next year person had no idea how SMF "too wet 2010 acres" would be treated. Talk to MLA and ag minister pleading that a one in a hundred year disaster should not be held against farmers in our CI seeding intensity. We did not intend to fallow.