is the CWB going broke or subsidising the Consumer

[bucket]

The american farmers are being paid very well for their durum in the upcoming year. If the americans want to give the grain away so be it BUT they make sure the farmers are paid.

By the way agstar - what do think of special fusarium program that costs the rest of us. And the pre flood delivery that some manitoba farmers get while I am storing grain and building bins?

[agstar77]

Never used any special fusarium delivery program. Never used any early flood delivery program. Like to pit one farmer against another?

[parsley]

Hillary is trying to get the rest of the world to scold North Korea. So, maybe the CWB will sneak into North Korea's backdoor with some of the DA's high protein wheat and sell it dirt cheap to the communists. That's triple bypass thinking. I'd better go kill cutworms.

[bucket]

No actually, if you would think about it, the cwb likes to pit farmers against each other.

I do not develop these programs - the cwb does.

And the fact that you don't use them should make you think about what it is costing your farm.

There was an article in the WP about a farmer who went from basically a feed to a 2 on his wheat. He got a significant bump in grade and payment and the rest of us wait for our adjustment. The very least the cwb could have done is paid the farmer on base grade and then he could have waited like the rest of us for an adjustment.

Sorry about the reference to the other threads, I am quite happy that your farm will have a good year. I like seeing farmers making money. We have guys with a great start as well but the general area is struggling.

[DogPatch]

Bucket......

Designated area producers, you must be from Alberta! Just as you think you're subsizing MB producers freight to Vancouver, the same might be suggest that we are subsidizing your freight to move it to the Midwest USA. Whole lot closer to Chicago from Manitoba.

Granted, the CWB is kind of like a (small C Coop) Its unlike the Big Grain Companies, where what you get in the fall or when you deliver..... thats it! True if our buddies in the CWB ever get their act together and find that premium then we can hope to get it at the end of the crop year.

Having been in the retail end of agri business in the past, the CWB is no different than your local Co-op, Viagra, etc when it comes to selling. The buyers of this world grains (India, China, and everyone else) are looking for your "best price" They have a choice......... sell it for a premium, sell it to move it, or like we think they are, for a loss to the producer. We all think (myself included) that we can market our grain better. As individuals we can't fill a boat by ourselves for export, so who gets the best price then?

Choice is the key to make us think we are in control, but will it mean that the Big G's will pay the producer any more?

[furrowtickler]

Dogpatch, I do not have fill a boat with canola - a tandem load at a time when I want works just fine - has for years.

[Hopperbin]

I don't see any CWB ass filling a boat either. And we are all charged more freight than we should be. If the CWB talks to its grain buyers like it talks to us then we lose more sales from customers just walking away than we want to know about.

[parsley]

dogpatch,you say:

"the CWB is no different than your local Co-op"

Read the CWB Act. CWB legislation reads that they are required to sell wheat and barley for what they consider as a "reasonable" price.

Read that again. My thoughts might be a bit wobbly today, but I can understand that meant-to-be wobbly legislation.

"reasonable"


Pars

[DogPatch]

Pars.....

Actually it was TOM4CWB that called the CWB a Co-op. Not to confuse that with the rest of them, I kind of agreed with him that they were like a coop where at the end of the year, a patronage dividend came back. In the CWB its called a final payment.

A coop is designed by its members to provide goods and services for a reasonable price, and unlike a corporation, the profits are returned to the members that have used the services the coop provided. In a corporation the profits are returned to the shareholders in the form of a dividend too.


Hope that clears things up.


"the CWB is no different than your local Co-op"

Read the CWB Act. CWB legislation reads that they are required to sell wheat and barley for what they consider as a "reasonable" price.

Read that again. My thoughts might be a bit wobbly today, but I can understand that meant-to-be wobbly legislation.

"reasonable"


Pars

[DogPatch]

Yes.... reasonable

Thats a matter of personal opinion. Some people are quite happy with the price they receive or pay for a service, and others are not. Reasonable is a funny work to fit into a value to make everyone happy.