Land Sale 15 Miles south of Yard $256,000 a quarter.

[DogPatch]

Is it not much wonder that we can't keep our young farmers farming? Banks demand you have economies of scale, but with the price of crops, livestock, inputs etc, how can they ever show a return if they have to compete with this.

How come the government is allowing the Chinese to backdoor invade our farmland?

[dave4441]

I have to agree with Parsley and Malleefarmer on this, open mkt is open mkt. Those that pay to much will either fail or are smarter then those that sit on their hands (like me). Same as a grain market. Some of the "chinese buying" is really Canadian immigrants buying land. You really have to be watchful of what is said here, as there is a difference between the country of CHina investing heavily in land in Canada and someone of chinease desent investing in land in Canada. I have to think some of these people that have business decisions that are influenced from the influence of the situation in their homeland, may have more of an idea of where things are headed in the future. I was in China last fall and it is something else. If they need to charge $65/ac then they can give it a go, and someone is not stupid for renting it as it depends on their situation as well.

[parsley]

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&langpair=zh-CN|en&u=http://www.ccagr.net/index.php/Invest-Canada-Agriculture-and-Food.html&prev=/translate_s%3Fhl%3Den%26q%3Dchina%2Bbuying%2Bland% 2Bin%2Bcanada%26sl%3Den%26tl%3Dzh-CN

[burnt]

The Red Tide coming in, Parsley?

[Hopperbin]

In the farms for sale listing they mention this.

3. Ontario, Canada is not only the economic engine of Canada and also the most open to foreign investment in the area:

安大略省是加拿大唯一省分对加拿大公民，中国公民，新，老移民购买农场一视同仁， Ontario is the only province in Canada to Canadian citizens, a Chinese citizen, old and new immigrants to buy farm equal treatment

价格统一， 想买多少都可以，产权永远属于您！ Uniform price, how much can buy, property always belongs to you! ！ !

加拿大面积很大，但真正农业可耕地只有5%， 其他都是森林，不可住人地方。 Canada, a very large area, but really only 5% of agricultural arable land, the rest are forests, not to live in place. 全部的农业可耕地只要0.5% 的土地是属于国家一级（最好）农业用地。 All arable land as long as 0.5% of agricultural land belonging to the national level (the best) of agricultural land.

由于独特的地理，气候，土壤条件，而安大略省拥有50% 以上全国一级农业用地。 Because of the unique geography, climate, soil conditions, 50% of Ontario agricultural land at the national level.

4. 在加拿大,安大略省，华人农场已经不是十分神奇。 4. In Canada, Ontario, the Chinese farm is not quite amazing. 在我们下面农场的附近您都可以看到华人农场，但是大多不是从中国国内来的华人。 In our farm in the vicinity below you can see that Chinese farms, but most are not from China to the Chinese. 相信不久将来中国国内来的新，老移民会越来越多投资农场。 I believe in the near future in China to the new and old immigrants will invest more and more farms. 您的朋友有可以在您附近投资。 Your friends can invest in your vicinity. 大家在一起，共同建设“ 新大陆：加拿大"金泥湾"农业开发带 ”。 Everyone together, to build "the New World: Canada's" golden mud b. "agricultural development zone." 别忘了让三面红旗在您的土地上高高飘扬: 加拿大国旗, 您的场旗，中国五星红旗!!! Do not forget to three red flags in your flying high above the land: Canadian flag, the flag of your field, the Chinese flag!!!

" 金泥湾"农业开发带位置介绍：加拿大多伦多以南，东到Hamilton 哈密尔顿， Niagara Falls 大瀑布，美国的纽约州的Baffalo （水牛城），西到Kitchener 金斯顿， London 伦敦，Windsor（温莎）， 加拿大最南方，经济发展最快地方， 交通最方便， 加拿大最好农业用地，气候温和，社会文化最适合华人居住！ "Golden mud b." Agricultural Development with a position description: Toronto, Canada, south, east to Hamilton Hamilton, Niagara Falls Great Falls, United States, New York Baffalo (Buffalo), west Kingston, Kitchener, London London, Windsor (Windsor) , Canada, most of the South, where the fastest economic growth, the most convenient transportation, Canada's best agricultural land, mild climate, the best Chinese social and cultural living! 最近加拿大政府专门成立联邦政府安大略省南方经济发展局来进一步推动这个地区的发展。 Recently the Government of Canada has set up a federal Southern Economic Development Council of Ontario to further promote the development of the region. 可以毫不夸张，这里是加拿大的经济特区。 It is no exaggeration, this is Canada's economic zone.

[Hopperbin]

Parsley why do Chinese like to come here?
Reason number one is for their kids education. Buying a property is sure fast way to get the kids in school here.
Not to mention can also bring over the relatives and everyone can collect all kinds of unemployment payments, work under the table, parents and grandparents can collect old age pensions and don't even have to live here.

[Hopperbin]

Is it OK to fly the Chinese flag in Canada??? Or WHY fly the Chinese flag in the first place??

[furrowtickler]

At the end end of the day any investment wether it be land or not should have a return on investent, right? At current values this is a negative return on investment or will soon be if the renter forfits on payments - no? Or they just walk. And there is no willing renter to pick up the retarded $60/ac rent? This leads to land purchased for $200,000 , rented out for $30-40/ac if they are lucky, thats a pretty poor return IMO. And for all you nay sayers - it is happening as we speak. Don't believe me? - Wait and see! We generally grow 2/3 the crop as these Albertan's, alot more risk and way more freight - also way less crop Ins too boot. Have fun, the last big spendin Albertan just left with his tail between his legs, but what do I know? Oh yea, and an Irish Investor just got hung with 50 1/4's last week. Whatever! Some can't see the trees through the forest. There is a strong reason Sask Land has been valued where it was for the past 20 years - b/c thats all it's worth!!!!! Within 5 years all these donkey's will be crying for gov't assistance. Have at me.

[hobbyfrmr]

Furrow, the irish investor thing, was this around Delisle, or Milden, SK? One friend of mine was working on a project with some Englishman who was going to farm half the country. Friend was going to do the agronomy/information collecting. They were soliciting venture capital money from different Eurpean folks and I do recall they had a meeting with someone from Ireland. Ultimately my friend was kind of...disregarded.. for the big picture. English farmer guy kind of wanted the lions share. Two or three years have gone by, it all fell down , my friend is renting some land from owners who got burned by the big project. I noticed the ambitious englishman is advertising custom seeding and spraying this year. I know I am just digging up mud, not positive stuff, but this will make a pretty good subject when we go fishing with the rest of buddies. Seven degrees of separation..small world...or whatever.