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  • ag-boy
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2004
    • 166

    hot cow market

    out there in s alberta [balog auction]have a sale going bred hfr and young cows 1700 up to 1900
    half sale done and not dropping !
    same owner here in sask [swift currant] high sale week ago .
    there is a lot of optimism in the cattle cow calf outlook he !
    yes fat market for april locking in at 140 !!!!!!! looks like never been better.
    this is what happend sell out and pannic ,happy cowman
  • kato
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2000
    • 3520

    #2
    There was a bred cow sale near here last week where the top cow in the whole sale brought $1100. Lots of $800.00 cows to be had.

    mm.....

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    • jensend
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2002
      • 1533

      #3
      Considering the average cow raises 4
      calves does someone want to use the bud
      williams method of cow valuation to tell
      me what calves have to be worth for a
      $1,900 cow to be profitable?

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      • grassfarmer
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2002
        • 9734

        #4
        The Westwood cows were always going to be the
        peak of the trade this fall - Kevin did his
        homework. I bought a similar set of "well sold"
        cows in spring 2001 on a previous cattle cycle
        peak at $1600 a month before calving. Never
        regretted it because they were long lasting, hard
        working cows that paid their way through BSE.
        Sometimes high priced cows are worth the
        money - but more often than not the wastage is
        too high in my experience.

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        • SCS
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2012
          • 123

          #5
          As a retired Genex rep I know what Kevin has done. AI'd 1500 plus heifers each spring. I know that some are auction mart cheap buyers, not helping the future, hats off to Kevin for helping!

          SCS

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          • WiltonRanch
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2012
            • 4517

            #6
            Those high price mommas if they`re piss cutters
            may work but are still expensive cows. I think you
            want quality, but dont get stupid.
            Just wondering what is the Bud Williams method
            for pricing cows?

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            • 15444
              Senior Member
              • Feb 2000
              • 2112

              #7
              Everybody is trying to hide the cash before the end of the year. Lets compare prices first week of January.

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              • DogPatch
                Senior Member
                • Jul 2007
                • 446

                #8
                If an average cow only has 4 calves, then either the rancher is keeping crap for replacements, buying someones crap for his replacements, not feeding them right, using average bulls, not semen checking, etc etc. Something is wrong............

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                • SADIE
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 553

                  #9
                  15444

                  What is to compare the first week of January when you are comparing bred heifers or bred cows?

                  Some astute cow person that is wanting to get out would make better placement of his sale than the first of Jan. Good market reps also would encourage the sale till later on in Jan.

                  Then the price of bred cows and bred heifers start to have a different value and that is 2-3 months of feed could be already in them. This year feeding in this area started 1 month earlier even when we feel we have or had stockpiled grass.

                  Butcher cows one can compare Dec price to new year price (some what) and if they are in good condition new years price starts to see the climb IMHO

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                  • jensend
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 1533

                    #10
                    to put it simply bud williams said the value of a cow is the present value of her salvage plus the present value of revenues her progeny generate minus the present value of the costs of carrying her and her progeny to where they generate those revenues.

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