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 Allfarmer, I really think your time would be better
 spent figuring out how to graze for 8 months and
 feed for 4 rather than feed for 8 and graze for 4.
 That's where the money is. I think you have to build
 your herd around your land-base and it's forage
 production capacity not build it around a winter feed
 program if you want to make money.
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 Yeah the old days of penning up the critters for
 most of the winter is on the way out with disco,
 discers, and box drills. Cows cant afford too much
 green paint or diesel. We are figuring this out finally.
 
 Later calving, more bale grazing, less reliance on
 equipment and less labour. My work force is either
 on the wrong side of 70 or under 5. Soon will be a 1
 man show and 300 cows. Gotta love a good horse
 and dog.
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 That's a good point ASRG. An Alberta AG "average
 yardage" cost is often quoted in articles promoting
 alternate systems of feeding but I don't know how
 recent or what the research was to establish that.
 Average is one thing - the range of variation interests
 me more - but at the end of the day you have to
 know your own cost, thats the only one that matters.
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 A person definately must crunch their own
 numbers. That being said, folks who purport that
 bale grazing late calving etc will save the farm, and
 earl calving and tractor feeding will brake you is not
 always the case. I get pissed at people with that
 condescending attitude. My situation i need to
 reduce the need for extra labour.
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 I think each person needs to look at and
 assess their own operational base and
 skill set. I think a newer tractor
 needs to be spread over a lot of cows or
 additional enterprises
 (cows/grain/oilfield ploughing/etc.)
 There are lots of guys with higher costs
 that make it, they also have a higher
 risk per calf than a fellow with lower
 costs.
 To each his own, but I know that grazing
 longer saves us a lot of $ and doesn't
 make that calf worth any less.
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