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    #16
    I would be more worried about tuberculosis, FMD, brucellosis than BSE. This last case being a repeat makes you wonder if it's more an endemic problem like Johnes. Sure it spreads from eating bonemeal but wonder if particular cattle are more prone to contracting this naturally. Aren't some sheep genetically resistant to scrapie? Why couldn't it be plausible that some lines of cattle have a genetic flaw that makes the prions in them and around them turn on their bodies.

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      #17
      wilagro - What is your suggestion as to how this should be handled?

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        #18
        That is very probably the case WiltonRanch but when you get 2 cases on one place genetic susceptibility isn't the thing that springs to mind for me - more likely shared feed source. Wonder if there are other species on the farm?

        Don't worry wilagro it's not contagious.

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          #19
          grassfarmer: I know its not contagious but with chronic wasting disease there was suspicion that saliva on grass "might" be a vector for transmission amongst the deer population. Probably just a guess but who knows?

          Chronic wasting disease in deer populations has a similar outcome as BSE in cattle.

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            #20
            burnt: All I'm saying is. Give out some timely updates...I think we have a right to know what has been discovered and what action was/is being taken by the inspection agency.

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              #21
              Does this farm/ranch feed any commercial processed feed?

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                #22
                wmoebis: Who knows...these government agencies are so damned scared to reveal any facts anymore...quoting PRIVACY issues. Most of the time "facts" are not available 'cause they're covering their exposed arse and they might get "blamed" for something(or not doing something).

                We need some investigative reporters to get all of the facts and publish them.

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                  #23
                  Still cannot figure out why there has been no cases of BSE in Ont. or Que.Que has almost half the dairy Canadian herd. They feed way more supplement to dairy cattle than to beef cattle...Very interesting...

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                    #24
                    Still cannot figure out why there has been no cases of BSE in Ont. or Que.Que has almost half the dairy Canadian herd. They feed way more supplement to dairy cattle than to beef cattle...Very interesting...

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                      #25
                      Still cannot figure out why there has been no cases of BSE in Ont. or Que.Que has almost half the dairy Canadian herd. They feed way more supplement to dairy cattle than to beef cattle...Very interesting...

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                        #26
                        Still cannot figure out why there have no cases of BSE found in ONT. or Que. Que has almost half the dairy herd. Very interesting....

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                          #27
                          Been talking to Vet's who are very concerned over the rash of egotism (the disease from eating too much ergot). Feed tests show in every case that PPM is too high in processed feeds.
                          Feeling is that lack of training at plants and QC needs to be addressed.
                          Plants are blending erg free grain with screenings from elev etc. and staff doesn't know what adverse effects are if they pull out of wrong bin. Or just don't give a darn.
                          What is stopping these untrained staff from hitting the wrong switch and giving a shot of bone meal into wrong batch. Rather than owning up they just would say nobody will ever know, and carry on not knowing consequences.

                          Every elevator and mill employee should have to take an apprenticeship type course and pass an universal exam. Just like a food prep cook. The feed eventually becomes our food.

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                            #28
                            "Egotism". That's funny. Maybe it explains the reason for assholes. They ate too much black rye bread.

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                              #29
                              LOL RRRRRRRR missed an r. But do agree on both accounts.

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                                #30
                                Food4u there was never a lot of meat, blood or bone meal fed in the east. For one thing, there wasn't much being slaughtered here, and for another, there was and is a lot of soymeal and distillers to go around so the economics of protein supplements have always been different than in the west. Most dairy vets and nutritionists took animal proteins out of rations when BSE hit Britain, if not before. Our vet has been doing rations since the late 70s and never would put it in a ration for any of his herds

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