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    I keep encountering this misconception from people who don't follow Canadian politics...

    That somehow the Trucker convoy was defeated.

    The Freedom Convoy was the most wildly immediately successful protest in Canadian history, maybe WORLD history.

    People remember Trudeau's crackdown, old ladies having their skulls cracked with batons, Disabled indigenous grandmothers trampled by police horses, Bank accounts frozen and public employees investigated for mere donations...

    And there's a big reason people remember this... It was dramatic, and the media and the regime certainly wanted you to think resistance was futile...

    What people don't remember is what happened in the immediate aftermath: The government caved on absolutely everything within a week for the most important things, and then a month or so for the rest.

    First off there was the massive political shift that happened as the convoy was occurring:

    Jason Kenny, the pro-lockdown Premiere of Alberta (Canada's most conservative province) was forced to announce his resignation, and Alberta immediately lifted all its lockdown impositions.

    Erin O'toole the pro lockdown leader of the conservaitve party was likewise forced to resign, his temporary replacement Candice Bergen (not to be mistaken with the actress) being a longtime rival opposed to lockdowns, and his main rival who replaced her after party elections was
    @PierrePoilievre
    , the Politician after
    @MaximeBernier
    who was quickest to embrace the Truckers and their cry for freedom. As the convoy was ongoing Trudeau invoked the Emergencies act (the Act which replaced the War Meassures Act for invoking Martial Law)... Now these grant the government almost unlimited powers, famously the War Meassures act was invoked by Trudeau's Father to detain Quebekers and raid hundreds of homes without warrants during the FLQ separatist crisis of 1972...the catch is while the follow on Emergencies act can be invoked by a prime minister parlaiment has to sign off on the act's continued use within one week.

    Well skull were cracked, accounts frozen, and as the week passed things came down to the deadline... On the very last night... Trudeau managed to get sign off (without the conservative opposition) from the house of commons, but it had to go to the Upper House, the Canadian senate.

    NOW. The Canadian Senate is a shameful institution.

    Its like the British house of lords but without the nobility.

    A senate seat is a lifetime appointment, by the prime minister... and that's it. Little to no review, no democratic input, and this is supposed to be equivalent or superior to our elected house of commons....

    Naturally the go to use of the senate is as a spoils system for cronies. Do some shameful favour for a prime minister, raise a lot of money for the party, be politically connected to a provinicial gov the PM wants to buy off... Get a senate seat.

    One of the longest standing political agreements in Canada is how badly the senate needs to be abolished... but can't be because Quebec is nominally over represented in the Senate, and abolishing it would cause a constitutional crisis.

    So mostly the senate keeps its head down and tries to avoid the news... becuase it will never be sympathetic.

    So this nursing home for cronies, criminals, fall guys, and connected activists past...people who's names haven't been spoken aloud since 1996... an institution who was last in the news 10 years ago for an expense scandal who's essence was "Wait we're paying these leeches expenses!?"... that body was called upon to sign off on the emergencies act...

    And all these self important losers smelled blood in the water.

    .

    Did they have some principled stand on civil liberties grounds? Absolutely not.

    They had a principled objection that they weren't being treated as more important!

    Sure they'd consider signing off on Trudeau's abuses, but they wanted an ongoing senate committee to continuously review the abuses, with cabinet level briefings for the committee members, regular pressers, inclusion on the forming of policy... Juicy Juicy INFLUENCE.

    The exact thing these shameful roaches had been denied ever since their real political careers flamed out in '92 and they'd been forced to become lost souls in the senate.

    The speeches these delusional 70 year old nobodies gave...MY GOD barely coherent gibberish from geriatrics convinced they were great statesmen... convinced their wisdom might now be included in great volumes of Canadian oratory next to Laurier, Macdonald, and Pearson...

    With mere hours left to the deadline and no passage in sight... Trudeau voluntarily withdrew the act.

    In the preceding week his Finance minister Crystia Freeland had given press statements and interviews to the effect that they planned to hunt down everyone who donated to the convoy, and create an expansive new system of financial control... with hints ths would extend not only to the protesters, but all the unvaccinated...none of this would happen.

    Instead Trudeau weekly tried to claim victory... There were no protestors in Ottawa or on bridges! But in the week that followed lockdown measures were quickly and quietly pulled back. Alberta had already rescinded their measures, and other provinces were following suit. By june almost all domestic restrictions were gone the regime desperately afraid that if the Protesters were able to shut down the capital and crossborder trade in minus 20 to minus 40 degree weather...what might they do in the Summer? Canada day (July 1) was approached with fear.

    By August I travelled to US for wedding... Unvaccinated. The greater barrier being the risk the US would refuse me entry than Canada would hastle me. The US border guard didn't ask.

    And on the way back the Canadian border guard, obviously over with this stuff, told me "Now because you're unvaccinated you do technically have to quarantine, and they could possibly call, and if you say you haven't been quarantining they might do something..." I received one email from public health and immediately deleted it. THere was no enforcement.

    I travelled again in October, and was not even asked on return.

    The last measures had been withdrawn.

    The Greatest barrier to travel was US border restrictions and requirements... which technically only ended in May this year.

    WITHIN 1 month the trucker convoy had effected a hostile overthrow of the Governments of Alberta and the official opposition, the Conservative party of Canada, from pro to anti- lockdown, and crushed the moderate wing of the conservative movement.

    At Multiple points Trudeau was nearly forced out by his own party and his government was humiliated with most pof its percieved power destroyed, it now exists as a rump failing to pass gun control bills (IN CANADA!) against moderate opposition.

    Within 2-4 months all domestic restrictions were gone and within 8 months even the pantomime of international restrictions didn't exist, Canada had fewer covid restrictions than the US.

    COMPLETE CONSENSUS had be totally destroyed such that in less than a year the national consensus was the polar opposite.

    And all the actual action took place in 1 month, on the coldest days of the year, with a movement who's key members had to drive 4000-5000km (~3000 miles) along treacherous northern roads being greeted roadside by supporters who stood out in minus 40 to give them coffee food and support.

    .

    This was at once the most logistically challenging protest in human history involving the volunteering of tens of millions of dollars of equipment, weeks of time, tens of thousands of people, across a continent...

    And it might just have been the most successful individual protest in human history. The most successful violent revolutions have not achieved such total reversals in culture and policy across so many levels of government, in such few short months.

    THERE IS A VERY GOOD REASON THE REGIME WANTS YOU TO THINK OF IT AS A FAILURE.

    The same reason things like Brexit, the Yellow Vests in France, or Jan 6th, or the Dutch Farmers protest freaked out the elite so much.

    The greatest possible threat to them is that the mass of the Suburban and rural Middle-class: Flyover country, the Petite Bourgeoise, the small business owners, the farmers, the truckers, the Kulaks... The greatest possible threat to the regime is that this mass will realize its incredible power both in coordination, logistics, and initiative... And that it will overthrow the governing class of Bureaucrats, Regulators, Lawyers, DEI Administrators, and leaches who've gotten rich surviving of their tax cattle who actually work and produce things.

    They HAVE to play off the Truckers as a failure... Trudeau had to declare victory then cave on every single individual policy.... because they can't let people see what it was:

    A premonition of the great Class War to come.




    #2
    The protest was a symptom not the cure.

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      #3
      Originally posted by blackpowder View Post
      The protest was a symptom not the cure.
      That may be true. But it was a symptom that was very difficult to ignore for people on all sides of the debate.
      The ruling elite didn't think the people would ever stand up to them, now they know better.
      And the silent majority who keep being told they are an insignificant minority whose views don't align with the majority, couldn't see with their own eyes that we are actually the majority, and that the citizens across this country have a lot more in common than we realized. It's just the divide and conquer tactics of the ruling party trying to make us think otherwise.
      Can't put that genie back into the bottle.
      I expect this has set back the agenda by many years. And not just in canada.
      Last edited by AlbertaFarmer5; Jun 8, 2023, 13:05.

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        #4
        Perhaps. But another symptom is polarization. Politics by division not compromise. Hence the NDP.

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          #5
          Hence any political party. They all divide.

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            #6
            In my perfect imagination two parties would compromise well enough to make multi parties extinct. Instead they become a pole for the compass.

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              #7
              Originally posted by Blaithin View Post
              Hence any political party. They all divide.
              I am at the point where I'm not sure who would win if it divided CARROT vrs STICK.

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                #8
                Originally posted by littledoggie View Post
                The same reason things like Brexit, the Yellow Vests in France, or Jan 6th, or the Dutch Farmers protest freaked out the elite so much.
                But they arent backing down, just rejigging the attack. And recruiting more useful idiots to the cause.

                94% of people will never know what 5% of the population did to protect them from the 1%.

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                  #9
                  Did she mention the seizing all the funds from the Go-Fund type cash?

                  The BS attacks on the supporters that sent donations was IMHO a much bigger indication of totalism than the riot cops.

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                    #10
                    Great post littledog , convoy showed them their is a limit to what people will take , forever thankfull to the truckers and everybody involved

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                      #11
                      You can protest all you want.

                      But illegally blocking borders and occupying cities, harassing citizens, and taking away the freedom of businesses and citizens to go about their daily life is against the law.

                      Pierre Poilievre said it well on February 20th , 2020 in regards to another protest.

                      “These blockaders are taking away the freedom of other people to move their goods and themselves where they want to go and that is wrong and the government has laws and tools in place to combat it,”

                      And every province including the Conservative Premiers in Canada put most of the covid measures in place. So the idea that all the covid measures were caused by Trudeau and the Liberals was a stupid idea.

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                        #12
                        Thanks for that reply iChuck.

                        Now can you explain to me, what is a woman?

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                          #13
                          You gotta get out there more little doggie. You sound like you are missing out?

                          Is there a reason you chose little doggie over big doggie?

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