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May 31, 2023 | 16:01
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Wheat seeded May 15th .. with bourgault
Canola seed rate trial with SM SR
2.5 lbs
3.5 lbs
Will update photos in about 10 days
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May 31, 2023 | 19:43
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We went from a dustbowl to all the cereals turning yellow, even wheat , swamp again
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May 31, 2023 | 19:57
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Have any pics of SR in trash?
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May 31, 2023 | 21:38
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 Originally Posted by caseih
We went from a dustbowl to all the cereals turning yellow, even wheat , swamp again
Yes went for a short drive tonight and it crazy what two warm days will do after the poison rain fell from the sky.
Once the life is pounded out of the soil then it takes a few days of trying to grow then yellowing.
I doubt this will end well.
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May 31, 2023 | 21:58
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Originally Posted by blackpowder
Have any pics of SR in trash?
Will get much better ones in the nest few days
Been busy as hell last 10 days
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Jun 1, 2023 | 06:23
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Originally Posted by blackpowder
Have any pics of SR in trash?
Wheat stubble not harrowed ..
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Jun 1, 2023 | 06:50
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Different field, still wheat stubble not harrowed
Seems to be ok , just out getting the last of the rock ridges finally..
I really like this rock bucket
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Jun 1, 2023 | 07:30
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Timac
Side by side pic
Is that the multi micronutrient, low salt product?
Where did you buy it ? Cost?
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Jun 1, 2023 | 07:44
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Originally Posted by Rareearth
Timac
Side by side pic
Is that the multi micronutrient, low salt product?
Where did you buy it ? Cost?
I will get info after I finish pickin rocks
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Jun 1, 2023 | 07:57
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Originally Posted by caseih
We went from a dustbowl to all the cereals turning yellow, even wheat , swamp again
Cereals turning yellow in Alberta also, but it is not from excess water. Worst moisture start in at least 35 years for surface moisture. There is a little subsoil moisture yet from the snow.
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Jun 1, 2023 | 08:01
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Originally Posted by poorboy
Cereals turning yellow in Alberta also, but it is not from excess water. Worst moisture start in at least 35 years for surface moisture. There is a little subsoil moisture yet from the snow.
Are the “rains” forecast over the next five days supposed to get any of the very dry areas in Alberta ?
Seem to be changing this 2-5 day forecast every 4 hours
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Jun 1, 2023 | 08:11
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Originally Posted by Rareearth
Timac
Side by side pic
Is that the multi micronutrient, low salt product?
Where did you buy it ? Cost?
Through Nutrien , about 1.3 x the cost of 11-51
Yes low salt index
We used it on all canola acres then tried this 100 ac trial on a 1/2 section of wheat
Last edited by furrowtickler; Jun 1, 2023 at 11:15.
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Jun 1, 2023 | 12:50
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Originally Posted by furrowtickler
Are the “rains” forecast over the next five days supposed to get any of the very dry areas in Alberta ?
Seem to be changing this 2-5 day forecast every 4 hours
As is typical in a dry year, the rain forecasts and amount evaporate to zero just before they are supposed to appear.
Same as when its too wet, every cloud drops rain.
Canola under such stress that plants are dying from leaves with 5-10% damage. Not many plants, but a few.
Biggest rain 2/10” rest of sprinkles never got the concrete fully damp.
Next week…
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Jun 1, 2023 | 13:09
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Originally Posted by poorboy
Cereals turning yellow in Alberta also, but it is not from excess water. Worst moisture start in at least 35 years for surface moisture. There is a little subsoil moisture yet from the snow.
I was talking to a neighbour. Went to spray a field of barley. Decided not to as the field was so dry the barley was turning yellow and dying. There has been some showers but very spotty. Where it hasn’t rained hilltops in seeded fields are bare. Getting very dire imo. Supposedly a chance of showers on Monday.
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Jun 1, 2023 | 13:11
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Originally Posted by furrowtickler
Through Nutrien , about 1.3 x the cost of 11-51
Yes low salt index
We used it on all canola acres then tried this 100 ac trial on a 1/2 section of wheat
In Bourgault’s more recent advertising magazine there was some trials on different sources of phos., didn’t appear to be a benefit either way. I was actually surprised. Looking forward to your results Furrow.
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Jun 1, 2023 | 13:50
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Originally Posted by Hamloc
I was talking to a neighbour. Went to spray a field of barley. Decided not to as the field was so dry the barley was turning yellow and dying. There has been some showers but very spotty. Where it hasn’t rained hilltops in seeded fields are bare. Getting very dire imo. Supposedly a chance of showers on Monday.
You’re not getting any today?
Not that it’s amounted to anything beyond getting the ground wet.
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Jun 1, 2023 | 14:06
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Originally Posted by furrowtickler
Through Nutrien , about 1.3 x the cost of 11-51
Yes low salt index
We used it on all canola acres then tried this 100 ac trial on a 1/2 section of wheat
The phos is the most expensive part of that mix. Everything else in there is half of what the phos is.
11-52 is around 28 salt index.
Do you have a number for the salt index?
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Jun 1, 2023 | 15:54
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Originally Posted by furrowtickler
Through Nutrien , about 1.3 x the cost of 11-51
Yes low salt index
We used it on all canola acres then tried this 100 ac trial on a 1/2 section of wheat
It says 28% P2O5 and then below it 14% P2O5, which number do you use when comparing to say 11-52 to know how much P you are applying?
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Jun 1, 2023 | 15:59
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Originally Posted by furrowtickler
Wheat stubble not harrowed ..
I really like how black the seed row is. My bourgault 3320 seems to cover the seedrow in straw and emergence is very slow. That black, warm seedrow just pops out. Is it the drill or are you protilling or heavy harrowing to get your residue levels so low, or does your 12" spaced drill just have that much less straw to deal with? Deere salesman claims the 12" conservapak will have less straw, the same yield and harvest quicker than my 10" Bourgault. Would be nice if it is true.
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Jun 1, 2023 | 17:56
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Thanks for the details furrow.
Your pic is very interesting, and supplier is not a start up.
I was thinking of the product that is blue in colour and traces of all the micro nutrients. Made in Europe ? Expensive and low salt.
I believe the Rack has been looking at Ca and doing trials as well.
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Jun 1, 2023 | 19:16
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Yes, I'm beginning to question more investment in straw management.
The catch for me is to afford enough hydraulics to make the SR work.
Always something.
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Jun 1, 2023 | 19:42
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Originally Posted by blackpowder
Yes, I'm beginning to question more investment in straw management.
The catch for me is to afford enough hydraulics to make the SR work.
Always something.
It started at harvest , the New Hollands have great choppers and spreaders . We cut short , drove a bit slower but It paid off
Very little hydraulic required for the SR to be honest when set up with liquid
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Jun 1, 2023 | 20:34
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And yes the trash cleaners “look” Mickey Mouse and did give us some minor grief, but 80% of our canola was direct seeded into untouched wheat stubble at 300 to 400 ac / day . Not bad for a 60 ft drill . And we never pushed hours once
Last edited by furrowtickler; Jun 1, 2023 at 21:44.
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Jun 1, 2023 | 20:51
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Geiko soybeans seeded May 23.
1870JD Conservapak 12”
3.5mph.
Degelman Rolled
Will be interesting experiment!
Enough moisture to settle the dust today….
2” behind normal rain fall.
Praying for rain!!!
Last edited by TOM4CWB; Jun 1, 2023 at 20:55.
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Jun 1, 2023 | 21:10
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Originally Posted by Blaithin
You’re not getting any today?
Not that it’s amounted to anything beyond getting the ground wet.
About a tenth in the rain gauge from today. Buddy that lives 15 minutes southwest of me said he got 3 tenths. Have to be honest we need inches not tenths. Nothing last year after the 19th of July. Still under an inch since snowmelt.
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Jun 1, 2023 | 21:50
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I thought we needed a lot , got 1.75” over 3 days , no sun for a week , now all cereals are yellow , not just barley
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Jun 1, 2023 | 22:27
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Originally Posted by caseih
I thought we needed a lot , got 1.75” over 3 days , no sun for a week , now all cereals are yellow , not just barley
Don’t ask for rain in this part of the country. Was guilty myself of wanting just a bit to settle the dust well I got it and then some in the next days. Raining again now as thunderstorm is passing over.
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Jun 1, 2023 | 23:43
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Originally Posted by Hamloc
In Bourgault’s more recent advertising magazine there was some trials on different sources of phos., didn’t appear to be a benefit either way. I was actually surprised. Looking forward to your results Furrow.
Depends what in the seed row and how dry conditions are till emergence
Bourgault’s test plots are great for sure , but they are in some of the best soils in western Canada and virtually never limited with moisture like western Sask .
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Jun 2, 2023 | 06:05
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1.25 inches last weekend and 2 inches last night, things will really green up, these old dried up clay hills won’t ever get flooded.
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Jun 4, 2023 | 16:47
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Canola seed rate trial
2.5 lbs left
3.5 lbs right
On pea stubble
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