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May 21, 2023 | 23:28
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Been playing with ChatGPT 3.5 and am wondering if anyone is using AI to help in their farming decisions be it marketing, weather, crop planning etc? Is anyone using AI to help with research for their responses to threads? What uses do you see for AI in agriculture? Will it be helpful or will it be the hindrance? Will it boost productivity or put us out of a job? Are farms safe or are we all going to die when it pushes the button? I'm interested to know what people think.
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May 22, 2023 | 07:09
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AI has been shown to have the same bias as the people who designed it. Thats all you need to know.
Has no practical application for this industry and thats a good thing.
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May 22, 2023 | 10:47
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 Originally Posted by jazz
AI has been shown to have the same bias as the people who designed it. Thats all you need to know.
Has no practical application for this industry and thats a good thing.
I find your comments very odd. That's like saying the computer has no practical application or the wheel, and there were those who said that, and I agree that it currently does seem woke, but it's already here and to ignore the implications of AI is to do so at your own peril. The future is uncertain, exciting and frightening.
I have used it to help confirm a theory or bolster an idea, but I will say I can see there are people who just don't want to know, just take your jab and lock yourself in your house.
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May 22, 2023 | 12:49
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Originally Posted by jazz
AI has been shown to have the same bias as the people who designed it. Thats all you need to know.
Has no practical application for this industry and thats a good thing.
Agree jazz
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May 22, 2023 | 13:08
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In my past experience AI meant someone or something was getting Fooked ,and looks like they still are.
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May 22, 2023 | 13:27
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Originally Posted by Retired
In my past experience AI meant someone or something was getting Fooked ,and looks like they still are.
How so? I would say it's worth a discussion.
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May 22, 2023 | 16:02
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Originally Posted by jazz
AI has been shown to have the same bias as the people who designed it. Thats all you need to know.
Has no practical application for this industry and thats a good thing.
Yes, garbage in, garbage out. They were teaching that back in the '70s when computer science was first being taught in University.
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May 22, 2023 | 21:27
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Where's Sarah Conner when you need her 
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May 22, 2023 | 22:24
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Ask it to explain climate change. That response is all I need to know to never let it make any farming decisions. It's like knowing where to research facts but then going to CBC news to tell you their version of the facts. It's got such a leftist slant it's not even funny. If you stick to stuff like churning out a simple arduino sketch then it's absolutely amazing.
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May 22, 2023 | 22:30
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Chat gpt is purported to be everything and a box of chocolates but it’s best suited for uni students looking for an essay in entry level classes. Think AI for farming is best fit it needs to have ability to know if wet spot is worth going through or avoiding, or whether the multiple layers of yield maps, soil tests, etc can tell you if it’s worth putting more juice on or saying screw it cause it’s not worth the bother. Sure it will get smart enough eventually but so far human farmer intelligence trumps computer programs. Political bias in stem is horrible but it exists.
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May 22, 2023 | 22:33
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After interacting with it for a while I have started to recognize AI generated forum posts. It has a way of putting words together that has a kinda fingerprint to it. I can't unsee that fingerprint on a number of posts on different forums I visit now. It does warrant paying attention to it even if you don't like or even understand it. It's here and it's going to affect our businesses.
The extent of my farming AI interaction? I asked if canola is $20/bushel and nitrogen is $800/tonne what's the optimum fertilizer rate to use to maximize profit? The crazy non-answer wasn't worth the electricity it took to generate it.
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May 22, 2023 | 22:53
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Have a few questions on AI and farming ….
Will it know how to pull a calf at the right time
Will it know how to physically change a bearing
Will it know how to fix a wheel hub
An air seeder line
A liquid line
Fix a flat tire , with a nail or completely fuked split
Duct tape a main line to keep going
A hydraulic line leak
A hydraulic pump failure or leak
An electrical connection
A water pump
A hydraulic pump
An antifreeze leak
A GPS bad connection
A lodged rock in a rock picker
A bearing in a seed meeter , wheel , disk , packer , tractor , bailer , combine 500 bearings , swather 300 bearings ………. List in endless
Will it know when exactly to to turn around a bush , slough , rock pile. , a ridge in field , pothole , Solough, yard site , tree line , fence liner , neighbours fence , corrals, castle fence , pig fence , chicken fence , elk fence , bison fence , dugouts , road alowances , mail box’s , road approach’s not marked , wells , unexpected potholes , wet spots , ground seepage areas , saline areas , washouts , normal water runs , odd water runs …
I could go on for a while , will let others fill in
But really AI will have near zero part in 90% of what we do .
This is only a partial list , I am sure many will be added .
Yup , farming so easy ….
Last edited by furrowtickler; May 23, 2023 at 04:31.
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May 22, 2023 | 22:56
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All on the go with personal and or business contacts at hand to try to keep rolling
I will be waiting for response
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May 22, 2023 | 22:57
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AI is lazy clowns to replace other lazy clowns jobs, sorry , that’s it
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May 22, 2023 | 23:22
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Sorry went off but , seriously…. ??
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May 23, 2023 | 00:22
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Originally Posted by jazz
Technology is not going to go the way you think it. Soon people wont be able to trust it and it will come with such control and insidious influence, so they will disconnect from it.
Know your enemies...and a kill switch probably would be a good idea.
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May 23, 2023 | 00:33
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Originally Posted by Tucker
After interacting with it for a while I have started to recognize AI generated forum posts. It has a way of putting words together that has a kinda fingerprint to it. I can't unsee that fingerprint on a number of posts on different forums I visit now. It does warrant paying attention to it even if you don't like or even understand it. It's here and it's going to affect our businesses.
The extent of my farming AI interaction? I asked if canola is $20/bushel and nitrogen is $800/tonne what's the optimum fertilizer rate to use to maximize profit? The crazy non-answer wasn't worth the electricity it took to generate it.
I agree, but that information isn't out there for anyone to look up because the fertilizer companies and the grain companies don't want you to know the answer because if you knew the truth nobody would plant a crop and AI is only pulling information from the internet like anyone can do if you have the time, however I think this should get better with time as more of these questions are asked.
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May 23, 2023 | 00:58
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Originally Posted by furrowtickler
Have a few questions on AI and farming ….
Will it know how to pull a calf at the right time
Will it know how to physically change a bearing
Will it know how to fix a wheel hub
An air seeder line
A liquid line
Fix a flat tire , with a nail or completely fuked split
Duct tape a main line to keep going
A hydraulic line leak
A hydraulic pump failure or leak
An electrical connection
A water pump
A hydraulic pump
An antifreeze leak
A GPS bad connection
A lodged rock in a rock picker
A bearing in a seed meeter , wheel , disk , packer , tractor , bailer , combine 500 bearings , swather 300 bearings ………. List in endless
Will it know when exactly to to turn around a bush , slough , rock pile. , a ridge in field , pothole , Solough, yard site , tree line , fence liner , neighbours fence , corrals, castle fence , pig fence , chicken fence , elk fence , bison fence , dugouts , road alowances , mail box’s , road approach’s not marked , wells , unexpected potholes , wet spots , ground seepage areas , saline areas , washouts , normal water runs , odd water runs …
I could go on for a while , will let others fill in
But really AI will have near zero part in 90% of what we do .
So *** off with we will be replaced
This is only a partial list , I am sure many will be added .
Yup , farming so easy …. *** you , you do it
Studies have shown that in some cases people would rather interact with AI than another human, that isn't something I would have thought of, but it makes sense if it tells you something you want to hear.
So take that a step further and add this capacity for intelligence to a robot, one that can help you hold the pliers as you pound the staple in the post, or guide you back to the trailer and drop the pin in the hitch rather than having the wife come out to help, and maybe have the conversation you want to have.
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May 23, 2023 | 04:36
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Originally Posted by Stormin
Studies have shown that in some cases people would rather interact with AI than another human, that isn't something I would have thought of, but it makes sense if it tells you something you want to hear.
So take that a step further and add this capacity for intelligence to a robot, one that can help you hold the pliers as you pound the staple in the post, or guide you back to the trailer and drop the pin in the hitch rather than having the wife come out to help, and maybe have the conversation you want to have.
same people that do climate change studies i guess?
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May 23, 2023 | 05:34
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If AI calculated the money invested in land, machinery and time and the risk of markets and weather it might tell you growing food is a poor investment. Risk factor too high for return let world go hungry and do something else. Would be nice if AI could send service truck when needed thou !
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May 23, 2023 | 09:42
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A marxist AI programmed into a helper robot would rather see you kill yourself on the farm and your family leave the land and eat bugs.
I mean boston robotics have tons of these prototypes. Would you really want this thing behind you when you are fixing something.
Watch those Black Mirror episodes from about 5 yrs ago. One showed a group of people totally integrated into the tech control structure and another that rejected it entirely and lived as an alternate society.
Why would you fully interact with something you cant trust. I dont trust the govt so my interactions are kept to a minimum. I dont trust my neighbor hoping he gets to rent my land. Same concept.
Last edited by jazz; May 23, 2023 at 09:44.
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May 23, 2023 | 09:53
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Originally Posted by jazz
Would you really want this thing behind you when you are fixing something.
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Better have your pants buckled up if you know what I’m sayin.
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May 23, 2023 | 12:18
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if you want REAL advice and intelligence talk to an old timer whos been through it all before
if you want artificial intelligence well you know where to get it, no different than artificial meat, sweetner, leather or anything else artificial.
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May 23, 2023 | 12:21
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They’ll be 100’s of ways AI will be helpful especially as it get better. Some may be just taking heavy lifting out of data gathering but still neat. What’s the optimal date to seed canola to net get hit with a frost. Or analyze all machinery sales from all auction places and find the lowest dollar per hour machinery. Scan all journals for research on optimal factors for anything ag related.
Better is you will be able to completely write your own fertilizer prescriptions. Take yield data load it in and just verbally tell it till build a map compatible with an X35 based on what you want with no coding. Possibilities are endless.
Last edited by Grahamp; May 23, 2023 at 12:24.
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May 23, 2023 | 12:52
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When AI tells me what day and time its going to hail, it’ll be well worth its while.
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May 23, 2023 | 22:03
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The bto neighbor uses AI to optimize operations.
He works with Solinftec. I think they are a Brazilian company.
He started working with them last year. This year they are seeding way differently. No more than 2 or 3 drills in one area. Lots of single drills scattered around. Less moving, this way.
11 drills, 7 sprayers, 2 rollers and all the support equipment. Spread out over atleast 70 miles.
He has 15,000 mt of fertilizer shed storage and a blender.
Just a tonne of stuff going on.
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May 23, 2023 | 23:48
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Originally Posted by LEP
The bto neighbor uses AI to optimize operations.
He works with Solinftec. I think they are a Brazilian company.
He started working with them last year. This year they are seeding way differently. No more than 2 or 3 drills in one area. Lots of single drills scattered around. Less moving, this way.
11 drills, 7 sprayers, 2 rollers and all the support equipment. Spread out over atleast 70 miles.
He has 15,000 mt of fertilizer shed storage and a blender.
Just a tonne of stuff going on.
I can see that could happen it's about optimizing management and logistics. it would be expensive to do, I guess it's just scale.
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