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Apr 28, 2023 | 09:56
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 Originally Posted by Hamloc
So Quebec, the biggest producer of hydropower in Canada got to greedy and now is asking consumers to conserve electricity, go figure!! 
It's almost as if the there might be a mathematical limitation to everyone trying to rob Peter to pay Paul.
Which seems to be the plan, as every power grid sabotages their own reliability, intending to draw excess from elsewhere when the sun doesn't shine, and wind doesn't blow. We are finding out what happens when we run out of Peter's to rob from.
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May 2, 2023 | 18:53
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First quarter results from Ford. Total vehicles sold, 1.1 million. Total EV’s sold, same time period, 12000. Still expecting to lose $3 billion this year on the Electric Vehicles Division. Real world so much different than computer models and government fantasy. 
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May 4, 2023 | 07:23
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No doubt the auto industry is all wrong about the adoption of EVs!
In the horse and buggy era you were probably the same guys who said ICE cars would never work!
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May 4, 2023 | 07:57
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Originally Posted by chuckChuck
No doubt the auto industry is all wrong about the adoption of EVs!
In the horse and buggy era you were probably the same guys who said ICE cars would never work!
Enjoyed this article. Talks about how electric cars were actually first built before ICE cars. Good read Chuck2. 
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May 4, 2023 | 08:24
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Originally Posted by chuckChuck
No doubt the auto industry is all wrong about the adoption of EVs!
There you go with the broad sweeping generalizations again.
Not all of the automakers are wrong.
For example, the former CEO of Toyota who admits there is no future in electric vehicles.
And revealed that the other automakers admit the same thing in private.
https://www.businessinsider.com/toyo...e-2022-12?op=14
The only automakers who are wrong are the ones who are purely electric vehicle manufacturers. The market will sort them out eventually.
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May 4, 2023 | 09:09
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Originally Posted by chuckChuck
No doubt the auto industry is all wrong about the adoption of EVs!
In the horse and buggy era you were probably the same guys who said ICE cars would never work!
The auto industry is not adopting EV production.
Progressive government leadership is legislating it in the rich countries.
China will again be the winner as they are already the largest exporter, with Tesla the largest percentage of the total.
Rich countries including Canada and USA will try subsidies and tariffs to compete but that just makes product more expensive. Advantage China.
China also has huge advantages in raw materials.
Takes 12 years to get copper mine in production in the west. Over half that time is pre start up regulatory and greasing politicians at all levels including the indigenous.
How can you have EV's dominating the market by 2035 if you can't supply permits for the mines?
Government boondoggle in progress.
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May 4, 2023 | 10:20
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Originally Posted by shtferbrains
The auto industry is not adopting EV production.
Progressive government leadership is legislating it in the rich countries.
China will again be the winner as they are already the largest exporter, with Tesla the largest percentage of the total.
Rich countries including Canada and USA will try subsidies and tariffs to compete but that just makes product more expensive. Advantage China.
China also has huge advantages in raw materials.
Takes 12 years to get copper mine in production in the west. Over half that time is pre start up regulatory and greasing politicians at all levels including the indigenous.
How can you have EV's dominating the market by 2035 if you can't supply permits for the mines?
Government boondoggle in progress.
Feature or bug?
Either all of the policy makers are as gullible and scientifically illiterate as chuck, and this is just a bug, or else they have an agenda and the physical impossibility of it all is the intentional feature.
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May 7, 2023 | 08:04
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The oil industry in Alberta received massive subsidies, incentives and government help to attract investment in the oil sands.
The royalty rates were purposely kept very low until the tar sands producers paid off their capital investments. A big fat subsidy which you don't want to talk about!
But the usual suspects are more than willing to criticize any incentives or subsidies for the EV auto sector or any low carbon technology?
And Danny Smith wanted taxpayers to pay for the cleanup of oil wells! How is this not another glaring subsidy to a very profitable industry?
Some of you are very selective in your complaining about subsidies to industry. LOL
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May 7, 2023 | 10:06
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Originally Posted by chuckChuck
The oil industry in Alberta received massive subsidies, incentives and government help to attract investment in the oil sands.
The royalty rates were purposely kept very low until the tar sands producers paid off their capital investments. A big fat subsidy which you don't want to talk about!
But the usual suspects are more than willing to criticize any incentives or subsidies for the EV auto sector or any low carbon technology?
And Danny Smith wanted taxpayers to pay for the cleanup of oil wells! How is this not another glaring subsidy to a very profitable industry?
Some of you are very selective in your complaining about subsidies to industry. LOL
Chuck your red is bleeding through in your rhetoric again. Tar sands? Come on.
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May 8, 2023 | 00:41
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Originally Posted by WiltonRanch
Chuck your red is bleeding through in your rhetoric again. Tar sands? Come on.
CC… selective memory much….
The whole “Green Revolution “ EV… “renewable energy “ sector is government induced, regulatory backed, subsidized by “incentives “ that are taxpayer funded…
Alberta is prosperous…. Primarily Because of our nonrenewable energy development… mining, forestry, agriculture… energy being sold from solar and wind… is uneconomic and not sustainable… without the prosperity of the rest of our economy cross subsidized incentives.
Your rose coloured glasses are blindfolding your perception!
Blessings and Prayers
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May 8, 2023 | 06:47
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But you still don't want to acknowledge that the oil industry in Alberta has been and still is a recipient of subsidies, incentives, and government help? LOL
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May 8, 2023 | 07:15
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Originally Posted by chuckChuck
But you still don't want to acknowledge that the oil industry in Alberta has been and still is a recipient of subsidies, incentives, and government help? LOL
The government gets a huge amount back in tax on fuel etc , any subsidies would have been a great investment , lots of good paying jobs as well as the tax , only problem is how that tax money gets then wasted by the clowns in ottawa
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May 8, 2023 | 07:23
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So subsidies to the oil industry are a good investment that creates jobs and economic activity but the subsidies to EVs and battery manufacturing are not, even though they do the same thing? LOL
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May 8, 2023 | 07:29
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Battreys just store energy , not make energy , EV is pointless unless you charge it off a wind turbine or solar pannel , just make a clueless person think they are saving the plannet
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May 8, 2023 | 07:42
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Originally Posted by cropgrower
Battreys just store energy , not make energy , EV is pointless unless you charge it off a wind turbine or solar pannel , just make a clueless person think they are saving the plannet
Crop, EVs are about 80% efficient compared to about 20% for ICE vehicles.
Even charged with fossil fuels EVs are still more efficient than ICEs at putting energy to work and reducing emissions.
And Canada has 60% of its electricity from hydro. And is building a lot of renewables and planning for more nuclear. All low carbon options.
Try again! LOL
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May 8, 2023 | 08:28
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just a fairy tale in the minds of dreamers at this point in time , come back in mabe 10 years and have a look at it again
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May 11, 2023 | 14:44
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Since Chuck is having a bad day anyways...
I thought we were replacing reliable electricity generation with unreliable wind and solar because the former were causing drought and climate change, and the wind and solar were going to return earth's weather back to the panacea we enjoyed before climate change started. New peer reviewed literature suggests that it is actually the latter that are causing droughts.
As a conclusion, it can be said that it is certain that wind farms change the local climate. Very large wind farms or many wind farms also have an effect on the global climate. The results are mostly based on simulation models, whereby the study by Zhou et al. (2013), which was able to draw on comparative data, confirms the results found in the simulation models. The new study by Wang et al. (2023), which we discussed today, confirms the model calculations using real data obtained from a Chinese wind farm and shows for the first time that soil moisture is reduced by wind farms not only downwind but also upwind.
Wind farms thus contribute significantly to the drying out of soils, and to drought
But it is based mostly on simulations models, so it is probably nothing.
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/05/...ional-drought/
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May 11, 2023 | 19:06
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California is making the most use of that free sun and wind.
Comparisons of their rates by percent increase and actual values.
 
California may be the most suitable place in the world for renewables.
Very predictable moderate weather in the high population areas.
No extreme spikes in demand for air con or heat.
Rooftop residential produces predictably yead round.
Cheap BLM land near the population areas for near unlimited unopposed expansion.
Yet they still have the above economic issues that are predicted to get worse.
How can that be expected to work here under out extreme conditions?
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May 11, 2023 | 19:12
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Look at Hawaii, that’s why we noticed almost every residential roof in Maui was practically covered by solar panels.
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May 12, 2023 | 06:47
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Almost $175B in resource projects cancelled on Trudeaus watch. Imagine where the countrys GDP would be today.
Some real dumbasses in the country to vote for this 2 times.
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May 13, 2023 | 18:09
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You know how Chuck keeps telling us to take our complaints to the various electricity authorities and regulators and producers because they obviously know what they are doing and wouldn't be destroying the reliable fossil fuel powered grid to replace it with something that doesn't work.
Well, as it turns out, the US Senate did ask, and yes they would. FERC, is warning them about the catastrophic consequences to the reliability of the grid.
https://www.climatedepot.com/2023/05...-catastrophic/
But what would the Federal energy regulator commission possibly know about the reliability of electrical grids. Obviously Chuck is much smarter than them, and has far more experience.
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May 14, 2023 | 07:53
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Originally Posted by AlbertaFarmer5
You know how Chuck keeps telling us to take our complaints to the various electricity authorities and regulators and producers because they obviously know what they are doing and wouldn't be destroying the reliable fossil fuel powered grid to replace it with something that doesn't work.
Well, as it turns out, the US Senate did ask, and yes they would. FERC, is warning them about the catastrophic consequences to the reliability of the grid.
https://www.climatedepot.com/2023/05...-catastrophic/
But what would the Federal energy regulator commission possibly know about the reliability of electrical grids. Obviously Chuck is much smarter than them, and has far more experience.
Chuck, here is your chance to turn over a new leaf. Someone has done exactly what you keep asking for, and asked the questions of the relevant authorities. Do you care to comment?
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May 15, 2023 | 06:32
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So is Alberta's AESO saying that grid stability in Alberta is at risk because of all the renewables?
Alberta is leading Canada in installing a lot of renewables.
Saskatchewan is also installing significant renewable capacity.
So if it is a big risk why are the authorities and utilities letting it happen?
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May 15, 2023 | 07:25
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Originally Posted by chuckChuck
So is Alberta's AESO saying that grid stability in Alberta is at risk because of all the renewables?
Alberta is leading Canada in installing a lot of renewables.
Saskatchewan is also installing significant renewable capacity.
So if it is a big risk why are the authorities and utilities letting it happen?
You didn't read the article, did you?
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May 15, 2023 | 07:28
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No. Does it apply to Alberta with their specific situation?
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May 15, 2023 | 07:30
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Originally Posted by AlbertaFarmer5
You didn't read the article, did you?
The commission literally debunked your call to authority argument.
They are the authority.
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May 15, 2023 | 08:41
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Originally Posted by chuckChuck
No. Does it apply to Alberta with their specific situation?
Do you think that there is something really unique about Alberta's climate, geography, latitude, peak demand, etc?
Something that would make Alberta immune to the catastrophic failures that are being forecast, and already taking place in warm sunny places without winter whose peak demand is air conditioning season such as Texas and california?
Or should we repeat the experiment here where we get winter, and peak demand coincides with peak darkness, and the wind stops blowing for days at a time during the coldest weather?
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May 15, 2023 | 08:50
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Originally Posted by chuckChuck
No. Does it apply to Alberta with their specific situation?
And in the spirit of being polite and respectful, I appreciate your honesty and actually admitting that you do not actually read the article before discounting it.
How is seeding going?
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May 15, 2023 | 18:23
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Maybe when you come on in the morning you can respectfully explain how this data works in with the transition to much more expensive and much quicker obsolescence of EV's.
Average age 12.5 yrs.
How long do batteries last?
5yr max warranty?
"According to data collected by S&P Global Mobility, the average age of passenger vehicles on the road has reached a record high of 12.5 years. This trend, which began in 2017, has accelerated in a post-Covid world as new car prices soared due to shortages, and more recently, borrowing costs have skyrocketed, causing an affordability crisis. However, this trend might also suggest automobile manufacturers are producing higher-quality vehicles that break down less often."
"This is the sixth straight year of increase in the average vehicle age of the US fleet. It also reflects the highest yearly increase since the 2008-2009 recession, which caused an acceleration in average age beyond its traditional rate due to the sharp decline in new-vehicle sales demand," S&P Global Mobility pointed out.
Does this mean only a small percentage of the population will be able to afford automobiles and the rest will ride public transit with the meth-heads?
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May 15, 2023 | 18:33
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Academic Vegetation…. Creating a huge fire load…. When this energy disaster being planned kills 100’s of Millions….of humanity…. From what ever catastrophic collapse this folly creates….
The WEF, UN, Chinese, Club of Rome, BLM…. Etc….
Will smirk and lie like Trudeau, Biden, Carl Schwab’s anarchism that is deceiving humanity in to embracing as the intelligent solution .
Evolution, no spiritual life…. The existential threat of global warming…. All deceptive distractions…. Just like Covid.
Blessings and Prayers…
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