Electric.

what happes in a bad crash ? if the battery busts open , is their acid ? are they dry ? how safe is the crap in them if you get covered in it ? i guess people like me will again be called names because i have questions ! far right , flat earth etc

Lithium batteries burn at very high temperatures…

This ship sunk, it could not be extinguished because of the EV cars…118 of 4000.







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No one wants to talk about the elephant in the room…

Cheers

"Another major issue with electric vehicles is that they’re significantly heavier than gas-powered vehicles.

“It’s a matter of physics,” said David Adams, the president of the Global Automakers of Canada. “The batteries are extremely heavy and the vehicles are extremely heavy.”

Adams explained that the larger the vehicle, the bigger and heavier the battery will have to be to power it, which makes it even more dangerous to cars on the road. He added that the tires for electric vehicles are also heavier than combustion engine vehicles because they are built to sustain the weight of the battery.

This added weight will put more strain on our roads. It also makes it much more dangerous for gas-powered vehicles when an electric vehicle and a gas-powered car collide.

In 2011, the National Bureau of Economic Research found that if a vehicle weighs 1,000 pounds more than another vehicle, it results in a 47 per cent increase in fatality risk.

Earlier this year, the National Transportation Safety Board in the U.S. raised concerns over the increasing weight of electric trucks and Hummers, saying, “We have to be careful that we aren’t also creating unintended consequences: More death on our roads…safety, especially when it comes to new transportation policies and new technologies, cannot be overlooked.”

Parkades will collapsed from heavier EV's. Bridges will be stressed. Endless bad shit!

The price of lithium has gone down a lot.

Lithium carbonate prices sank below CNY 180,000 per tonne in April, the lowest in 18 months and down 70% from their record high in November 2022, as abundant supply and weak demand backed expectations for a surplus this year. The Chinese government ended cash subsidies for households purchasing new energy vehicles, resulting in NEV sales growth slowing to 22% year-on-year in Q1 of 2023 compared with the 93% surge in 2022. The overproduction of batteries at the end of the last year to take advantage of subsidies also attributed to the unsustainable inventory rise and prompted the sale of goods at a steep discount, with sharp capacity cuts in all streams of the supply chain. Still, multiple carbonate producers reported a reduction in their processing rates, while the EU decided to phase out carbon-emitting cars by 2035. Expectations that stockpiles might thin and demand recover led market players to believe prices are reaching their bottom.

The ownership costs of EVs will be much lower in the long run. And batteries will come down in price and be recycled.

EV vs. Gas: Which Cars Are Cheaper to Own?

We use data and simple math in an attempt to answer this very complicated question.
By Roberto Baldwin, Sasha Richie and Dave VanderWerpPublished: Oct 28, 2022

https://www.caranddriver.com/shopping-advice/a32494027/ev-vs-gas-cheaper-to-own/

Which Is Cheaper to Own?

So, by our calculations this makes the electric F-150 $2664 cheaper to own and operate over the first three years than its gas counterpart—and that’s without the tax credit. With it, it’s a substantial $10,164 less. The Kona Electric, on the other hand, is more costly than the gas version by $2041 without the tax credit, but $5459 cheaper with it. There can also be state and local incentives for EVs to factor in if those are available. Plus, as the years progress the lower costs of operating an electric vehicle (fuel and maintenance) continue to accrue.

https://www.caranddriver.com/shopping-advice/a32494027/ev-vs-gas-cheaper-to-own/

why let the facts get in the way of a good story ? thats what happens when you have been brainwashed

Anyone know the cost of fire insurance for an EV?

Chuck2, I own the top 12 inches. The Province owns what lies beneath, they have the mineral rights, I do not. They have the right to access what they own.

They do but if you signed a surface lease 20 years ago and received a payment for permanent damage to the land, what is the value of that land and damage today? In many cases multiple times higher.

You can review the annual payment for loss of use and nuisance but you can never revise the permanent damage payment

How many of you would have been satisfied with a payment for permanent damage based on much lower land values 30 years later?

The reason it's called permanent damage is in many cases the land is permanently damaged and lost for decades.

Is the value of the production the same as 30 years ago? Nope

But whether you agree or disagree with the issues around surface leases, the surface right arbitration board will enforce access for the oil company and take the negotiation process out of the hands of the landowner if you don't agree with their plans and compensation.

So much for the concept of property rights when dealing with oil companies. Property rights are limited by government intervention and regulation in favour of the oil industry.

That's why I kept my party line and out door toilet. That new expensive tech will never work! LOL